McLUHAN

[luka]

I think there is a link here with the D&G notion of what different 'bodies' can do. What they can register and process. What kind of bandwidth there is there.

 

[luka]

So deliberately pushing against the action of the environment, becoming aware of its influence upon you and opposing it.

 

[luka]

The extent to which this is guided is a very interesting question. @constant escape thinks it is God perfecting himself, that history is exactly that, God creating himself and perfecting himself, and we are along for the ride.

With McLuhan and others you get this counter force to God, you get the satanic, the human, the sinful, the perversion of gods plan.

 

[luka]

I think there is a link here with the D&G notion of what different 'bodies' can do. What they can register and process. What kind of bandwidth there is there.

The most easiest way for us to understand this and what McLuhan is getting at is by asking ourselves,
Like,
What can the caffeinated body do? What is gained and what is lost
What can the stoned body do? What is gained and what is lost
What can the Ritalin body do or the LSD body or so on and so forth

 

[luka]

what about when fluoride has calcified your third eye?

 

[kumar]

he describes the word of god as a control variable measured against those varying technologically mediated states. that catholics have nothing to fear from changes in the media of communication as the word of god is not the king james bible, that human perception / the incarnation incarnate is the anchoring body, like the central pillar on the tree i suppose, and that the chief problem we face is "observing reality". so you get the sense of catholic ritual for him being on the one hand a daily process of scrubbing the deck, realligning the sensorium, reverse engineering the effects of constant advertising and the tyranny of the word. i am not prepared to go catholic yet though.

 

[luka]

Yes, that's consistent with what I get shown in the pink temple but they haven't told me to go catholic luckily

 

[luka]

I have found that I can lose it though. The issue is how to keep in that alignment without rigidity and dogma

 

[sus]

What can the caffeinated body do? What is gained and what is lost
What can the stoned body do? What is gained and what is lost
What can the Ritalin body do or the LSD body or so on and so forth

Drive, lateral thinking, attention to detail, and perception > judgment switch, respectively.

 

[luka]

UbuWeb Sound - Marshall McLuhan

ubu.com

 

[william kent]

and bob dobbs too! fkn hell zappa mentions him in his book, says something like theyre on the same page in most areas. hes quite a magnetic personality, 100 years old or not.

 

[luka]

 

[william kent]

https://monoskop.org/images/d/dc/McLuhan_Marshall_1970_Counterblast.pdf

 

[william kent]

'The new media are not ways of relating us to the old "real" world;
they are the real world and they reshape what remains of the old world at will.'​

 

[william kent]

The BBC recently uploaded an interview with him and he spends the whole segment smirking and antagonising the interviewer.

 

[other_life]

hold tight monoskop

 

[william kent]

@kid charlemagne just picked up a copy of Understanding Media with one of the cool old covers. Same one shiels posted on page one.

 

[william kent]

hold tight monoskop

They've so much on there. Great resource. Full of French shit, Burroughs, McLuhan, etc.

 

[william kent]

he describes the word of god as a control variable measured against those varying technologically mediated states. that catholics have nothing to fear from changes in the media of communication as the word of god is not the king james bible, that human perception / the incarnation incarnate is the anchoring body, like the central pillar on the tree i suppose, and that the chief problem we face is "observing reality". so you get the sense of catholic ritual for him being on the one hand a daily process of scrubbing the deck, realligning the sensorium, reverse engineering the effects of constant advertising and the tyranny of the word. i am not prepared to go catholic yet though.

Same principle as D&G's "piece of fresh land,". Everyone's circling roughly the same ideas, just trying to put their own spin on them. You can see it across Debord's "Spectacle", Baudrillard's "Hyperreality", Burroughs' "Word/Image Virus". They have their differences, but it's the same God in many guises.

 

[william kent]

The BBC recently uploaded an interview with him and he spends the whole segment smirking and antagonising the interviewer.

I like his point that something becomes obsolete at its peak. That print was obsolete because at that time it had never been more powerful, more prevalent. Dovetails nicely with something Cutrone says at the start of the Friedman essay Dilbert posted:

MILTON FRIEDMAN FAMOUSLY DECLARED, on the threshold of the neoliberal revolution he helped usher in, “We are all Keynesians now!” Also around this time, Michel Foucault said that “We are all Marxists now.” The point was to thus thrust aside, by treating as safely past, something longstanding as a banality that could be ignored —