Simon silverdollarcircle
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(just) pre 9/11. What an innocent time.
I dunno if this has been mentioned, but isn't one of the changes that's taken place over the last 5 or so years is that 'underground' cache just can't really exist anymore. If you want to hear or find out about any kind of music it's only a click away. I can't imagine anyone growing up now really linking their identity to the music they listened to in the way that was obvious in youth culture gone by. Obviously there will always be scenes but, I'd imagine your kids nowadays wouldn't likely see as much conflict liking one particular genre of music compared to another. Or find their identity in the music they are into. I kind of think this is a good thing tbh.
i can't agree. john peel couldn't be replaced after he died - because his show was a two hour link to the underground. if you think there was no division between him and the daytime playlist you're mad. there used to be a whole network of fanzines and mail order record catalogs covering stuff you wouldn't know about otherwise, it had to be sought out. as i've said to @luka before @thirdform pirate radio doesn't reach lancashire. that's not to say the "ratio of profit" didn't play its part - but there was 100% a DIY underground culture that doesn't and can't exist post-internet. no sell out.Underground has never existed, it was always a spectacle phantom, always more to do with the ratio of profit to plastic or tape. How much can you talk about underground when John Peel was playing speedcore on national radio, unthinkable today.
wont say who emailed me this but you mistake the shit world you grew up in with reality...Underground has never existed, it was always a spectacle phantom, always more to do with the ratio of profit to plastic or tape. How much can you talk about underground when John Peel was playing speedcore on national radio, unthinkable today.
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nah. john peel was a two hour link to the underground. if you think there was no division between him and the daytime playlist you grew up in a more privileged environment than i did. fair enough i love to go on about this but there was a whole network of fanzines and mail order record catalogs covering stuff you wouldn't know about otherwise, it had to be sought out. as i've said to @luke before @thirdform pirate radio doesn't reach lancashire. that's not to say the "ratio of profit" didn't play its part - but there was 100% a punk* underground that doesn't and can't exist post-internet. in other words i agree with griftert.Underground has never existed, it was always a spectacle phantom, always more to do with the ratio of profit to plastic or tape. How much can you talk about underground when John Peel was playing speedcore on national radio, unthinkable today.
i can't agree. john peel couldn't be replaced after he died - because his show was a two hour link to the underground. if you think there was no division between him and the daytime playlist you're mad. there used to be a whole network of fanzines and mail order record catalogs covering stuff you wouldn't know about otherwise, it had to be sought out. as i've said to @luka before @thirdform pirate radio doesn't reach lancashire. that's not to say the "ratio of profit" didn't play its part - but there was 100% a DIY underground culture that doesn't and can't exist post-internet. no sell out.
in other words you gew up in 2d world, your world was shit, snd its not your fauly but it is shit
it was underground because you coulnt here it on jon peel
you dont understand. music was invisible. only i heard it. me and, likem willian kent. no one else knew it existed. that is the hole point
this is what you cant comprehend. it depended on the degree of your spiritual evolution