john eden

male pale and stale
here is how to succeed in today's dance music industry.

take good indigenous music such as Cumbia, Baile Funk, South African House, or anything else, and:

1. remove any trace of soul
2. take out all the organic groove
3. make mechanical funk-less machine beats roughly in the pattern of original
4. add shitty digital distortion
5. add plenty of stomach churning bass
6. send to Discobelle or Mad Decent
7. enjoy new jet setting lifestyle

Success in music business not dependent on talent, shock horror.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
he pretty much did name names. evreyone associated with discobelle and mad decent. i think thats fair.

i actually wrote those 2 names without thinking very much... i don't even follow those blogs at all, just seems like they champion a lot of this kind of stuff. i could actaully be wrong, or there may be blogs that fit the bill much better...
 

Fundamental

Well-known member
here is how to succeed in today's dance music industry.

take good indigenous music such as Cumbia, Baile Funk, South African House, or anything else, and:

1. remove any trace of soul
2. take out all the organic groove
3. make mechanical funk-less machine beats roughly in the pattern of original
4. add shitty digital distortion
5. add plenty of stomach churning bass
6. send to Discobelle or Mad Decent
7. enjoy new jet setting lifestyle

This.

Thank god for acts like VVV/Cosmin TRG/Scuba/SBTRKT/J-Orb offering us an antithesis to it...
 

luka

Well-known member
i actually wrote those 2 names without thinking very much... i don't even follow those blogs at all, just seems like they champion a lot of this kind of stuff. i could actaully be wrong, or there may be blogs that fit the bill much better...

dont talk wet! they exemplify this stuff and you know it. dont worry about making enemies. they're a bad joke, its good you came out and said it.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
why does it bother u

sound shit. club no fun. bad for dance. make unhappy.

are these enough reasons for you Elijah.

dont talk wet! they exemplify this stuff and you know it. dont worry about making enemies. they're a bad joke, its good you came out and said it.

lol but really, for the record these blogs do represent some pretty cool things as well...
 

unknown soulja

Wild Horses
None of the Night Slugs releases draw on any of the 'indigenous' musics given as examples in the original model so i dont think this really applies to them at all tbh. Oviously a few draw heavily on R&B, juke etc influences, and south african house (I'm assuming you mean kwaito as opposed to Black Coffee etc) is a pretty heavy influence on a load of UK house atm so sort of applies but otherwise i dont think they fit. I know theyve already been acquitted by Zhao upthread but thought I'd chuck my two cents in.

Ah Slackk it may not be cutting edge but it's pretty on point; thought it was funny tbh, like the attention to detail in the video aswell.
 
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Dunno, I just think the "East London is full of wankers" motif is done to death really.

Eh but what do I care, I'm a scouser who lives in South. Maybe I should be joining in?
 

unknown soulja

Wild Horses
I didnt realise they had Scousers in South, thought it was just people in gangs (except for Clapham obviously where they also have people in rugby shirts) ;)
 

zhao

there are no accidents
None of the Night Slugs releases draw on any of the 'indigenous' musics given as examples in the original model so i dont think this really applies to them at all tbh. Oviously a few draw heavily on R&B, juke etc influences, and south african house (I'm assuming you mean kwaito as opposed to Black Coffee etc) is a pretty heavy influence on a load of UK house atm so sort of applies but otherwise i dont think they fit. I know theyve already been acquitted by Zhao upthread but thought I'd chuck my two cents in.

Ah Slackk it may not be cutting edge but it's pretty on point; thought it was funny tbh, like the attention to detail in the video aswell.

well UK funky is "indigenous" to a degree... in as much as it is grounded in a highly localized scene. and a lot of the "post funky" or "electro funky" or god forbid, "intelligent funky" is kind of bloggified funky...

like if some posh-boys did detroit bass with geeky polish, tricked out programing and muchly ravey bits it might be called blog-booty.

edit: by "indigenous" i didn't mean only "non-western". but just anything... "real" for lack of better. oh no am i slipping down the autheticity slope again.. damn!

but you know, it's like the relationship of "crunchy" intrumental electronic IDM-hiphop to hiphop
 
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muser

Well-known member
I think man recordings, bersa discos, buraka som sistema etc would be included in this (totally different from blog-house people like jack beats which are doing a different thing). Allthough I have enjoyed some of the stuff that have come from the above mentioned its generally short lived. Tbh I think alot of the time the only effect they are having is raising awareness about these styles of music so people might be interested into looking into the authentic stuff. The worst is when people end up saying they prefer/ are only really into these outside immitations (often with higher production values or with mashups with dancehall/hiphop etc), but I guess they probably wouldn't of heard of it anyway.
 
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zhao

there are no accidents
Allthough I have enjoyed some of the stuff that have come from the above mentioned its generally short lived.

exactly same here. and i do know, and i'm afraid many, people who prefer the bloggified versions.

but again, i really don't want to diss or dismiss everything that might fit these descriptions, as it is totally valid to re-do something from a different angle, and it's just part of the whole evolution process and moving things, er, forward (?) i guess.
 

unknown soulja

Wild Horses
well UK funky is "indigenous" to a degree... in as much as it is grounded in a highly localized scene. and a lot of the "post funky" or "electro funky" or god forbid, "intelligent funky" is kind of bloggified funky...

like if some posh-boys did detroit bass with geeky polish, tricked out programing and muchly ravey bits it might be called blog-booty.

Lolz at intelligent funky. So does the blog prefix just show that the people making it are removed from the origin of the 'indigenous' music? If so how far do they have to be removed before it becomes blog - xxxxx?
 

zhao

there are no accidents
Lolz at intelligent funky. So does the blog prefix just show that the people making it are removed from the origin of the 'indigenous' music? If so how far do they have to be removed before it becomes blog - xxxxx?

i'm afraid any kind of concrete parameters might be impossible, if not beside-the-point, to establish... so i think the best answer i have for you is that it's a bit like pornography: i can't define it but i know it when i hear it! :D
 
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