Vinyl dying (for DJ's)

Sectionfive

bandwagon house
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/elvis-record-proves-a-hit-at-dublin-auction-1.1337226

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The Minerva suite at the RDS was packed today for the first ever Irish and international pop and rock memorabilia auction, held by Whyte’s auctioneers.

The 200-lot auction spanned 60 years of international and Irish pop and rock ’n’ roll, and included items from the Beatles, Buddy Holly, Van Morrison and U2. The star item was an original acetate record of That’s All Right recorded by Elvis Presley which had an estimate of €50,000-€70,000.

As the bidding started at €44,000, bidders online and in the room upped the ante. The gavel was struck as the record went for €64,000 to an anonymous online bidder. Auctioneer Ian Whyte said the buyer would not disclose themselves but that it may have been an Irish buyer bidding on behalf of an overseas bidder.

There were gasps in the room when a rare poster for a cancelled Dublin Nirvana concert sold for €1,300, five times its original estimate. The concert was due to take place on April 8th, 1994, the day lead singer Kurt Cobain died.

John Mallon from Monaghan had come up specially for the auction and was on the lookout for vinyl records. “It amazes me that people are interested in things that are signed, or autographs. I prefer music or old records. However, I really wanted the set of autographs signed by the Beatles on an old Aer Lingus dinner menu because it’s a great example of 1960s graphic design.”

Andrew Mason from Bray was eager to pick up a collection of Van Morrison vinyl LPs. He and his group of six friends like to collect antiques and collectible items from the 1950s and 1960s. “I’m a life-long fan. Van Morrison is my teacher in life, his lyrics really speak to me.”

Ollie Grimes from Skerries was delighted with his collection of items which he bought for his retro-style pub, the Snug in Skerries.

“It was great to get my hands on all this memorabilia because we’re a real music pub. I picked up items from Roy Orbison, Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis and U2. My favourite has to be the Island Records promotional card signed by all the members of U2 that dates from 1982. ”

Mr Grimes said he was disappointed to have been outbid for some of the items. “I really wanted the Michael Jackson poster from when he played Cork in 1988. It was valued at around €500. I bid €1,500, but it went for €1,600.”

Mr Whyte said it was “one of the most fun auctions” they ever held. “Prices were great across the board and we got a great price for the Elvis Presley record. We’re not sure where it went as it was a mystery buyer on the internet but I have a funny feeling it might be someone Irish.”

Mr Whyte said the auction attracted huge interest from online international bidders. “We had bidders from Canada, Ireland, Netherlands, The UK, United Arab Emirates, France, Norway, Greece, Luxembourg, the US, Spain and even as far afield as Kazakhstan. ”

There were 350 active bidders for the auction, 200 of whom were online.
 

ifp

Well-known member
This article says vinyls sales at highest in 15 years, although still a niche market.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/10/ifpi_annual_music/

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Worldwide vinyl sales now on a par with 1997.

50% jump in sales in the last year. Anyone want to speculate on why the sudden resurgence? People feel the need to own music in more physical formats again? Retro-hipsterism? Or just more vinyl out that's worth buying? Don't think it's the latter...
 

jackjambie

Voodoo Priest
wow that is fucking weird. whoever's buying it is CERTAINLY not DJing using it at any rate!

do you think they count serato timecoded vinyl in that? just a thought....
 

jackjambie

Voodoo Priest
i bought so much vinyl in 05 - 09! don't think i've bought anything other than a few beneath records in the past 2 years. assumed that was the same for a lot of people but maybe not....
 

Leo

Well-known member
wow that is fucking weird. whoever's buying it is CERTAINLY not DJing using it at any rate!

do you think they count serato timecoded vinyl in that? just a thought....

i imagine vinyl purchases by DJs play a very small role in those numbers. based on what i see in record stores and other places where vinyl is sold (like urban outfitters, etc.), it's lots of young people buying stuff like indie rock albums for home listening.

this weekend, i saw a teenager with his dad in the checkout line at other music with the vinyl of the new depeche mode album, couldn't figure out which one of them was buying it!
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"wow that is fucking weird. whoever's buying it is CERTAINLY not DJing using it at any rate!"
I am.
Played some records last Wednesday in fact... not very well but there you go. Here's the evidence

 

Sectionfive

bandwagon house
Id say so much is ebay/discogs and secondhand shops. Probably outstips 'new' sales.


That new Wareika Hill Sounds EP on Honest Jons takes on a lovely gospel feel played at 33 if anyone picked it up.
On repeat here all morning
 

Leo

Well-known member
Id say so much is ebay/discogs and secondhand shops. Probably outstips 'new' sales.

not sure about that. i think "industry sales" statistics are only from proper retail shops and big online sellers (amazon, juno, etc.), places that use bar codes and soundscan tracking, isn't it? seems like it would be impossible to track individual sales from private sellers on discogs and ebay.
 

connect_icut

Well-known member
Even for new vinyl, I'd say that only a small fraction of sales get recorded. Surely most new vinyl gets sold at independent, non-"chart return" stores or mail order. So, whatever the "official" figure for annual sales might be, couldn't you at least double that?

For example, someone told me the new My Bloody Valentine LP sold 40,000 units on pre-sale (which is apparently more than 2012s biggest-selling vinyl record in the UK) but not one of those sales would have contributed to any kind of official tally.
 

ifp

Well-known member
Interesting that he produces with an engineer. Does this happen a lot? I know Goldie did it with Inner City Life.
 

Sectionfive

bandwagon house
Rob Playford from Moving Shadow did all Goldie's stuff
MJ Cole was similar figure in Garage for years before stepping out himself
 
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