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IdleRich

IdleRich

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“The idea that the Crusades and the fight of Christendom against Islam is somehow an aggression on our part is absolutely anti-historical,” former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) told a South Carolina audience yesterday. “And that is what the perception is by the American left who hates Christendom.”
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Well, if by "our" he means the states then seeing as the US hadn't even been though of by then I'd say he's got a point... if by "our" he means Christians then... no so much.
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
it almost feels like Rick Santorum is on a mission to prove further with every waking breath just how terrible he would be in a general election. I will miss his insanity when the grim march of Romney inevitability resumes.

edit: sweet christ this dude really just will not stop saying crazy, self-damaging things. way to score points with female voters, bro.

on a different note here is a good New Yorker profile of Larry McCarthy, the GOP attack dog media consultant responsible for the infamous Willie Horton ad that used racial fear to propel Bush Sr into office in '88, as well as another thirty years worth of the lowest kind of political mudslinging. currently working for Mitt. the campaign that crushed Newt in Florida was his work. Rick S is surely next.
 
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Leo

Leo

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i believe fox business sacked a load of their on-air lineup due to poor ratings, doing a big reboot, so not anything against him in particular. note that fox business -- their start up business news channel that's only been around for a few years -- is separate from fox news, home of o'reilly, hannity, etc. that's still #1 in cable news.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

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How is that one minute Gingrich looked like he could have been a contender and now he looks like a bum (though he could never have had class)? Is this all down to Romney's so-called attack ads? That's pretty amazing if so... and will he be able to squash Santorum in the same way?
 
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IdleRich said:
How is that one minute Gingrich looked like he could have been a contender and now he looks like a bum (though he could never have had class)? Is this all down to Romney's so-called attack ads? That's pretty amazing if so... and will he be able to squash Santorum in the same way?
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I'm not really sure exactly what happened to Newt in Fla, but this has been pretty much the pattern from the start. One candidate inherits the rightwing nutter mantel for a few days, maybe weeks, long enough to pick up a load of ABM votes before enough attention is focused on them to remind everyone what a scum/idiot/criminal he or she is.

Newt fell away cos he just can't win (he was only on top of cos of the odd debate win and cos his anti-rich populism struck a chord). Same will happen to Ricky boy, but presumably long term they can't go on like this.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

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Yeah, it has rotated like that (the RWNM) but New's fall from grace seemed particularly spectacular given that there didn't seem to be anything specific (like forgetting which department you wanted to cut for instance) that had caused it.
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
Gingrich is a house of cards that was always going to topple the minute someone went after it. just too vulnerable, too many enemies. the problem now for Romney is that 90% of the people who hate Santorum aren't going to vote in GOP primaries. whereas most people who hate Mitt will.
 
Leo

Leo

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gingrich's campaign is also pretty broke, making him unable to fight back in ads in a strong and timely manner, or travel around like he needs to.

also, as the economy starts to get a little better and the obama administration gets into it with religious leaders over birth control/insurance coverage, the GOP has shifted to social issues (aka the cultural wars), which is santorum's sweet spot.
 
Bangpuss

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I find Andrew Napolitano the most reasonable and intelligent person on the American right. The clip you posted could easily be a speech by a member of the Occupy movement or the Chomskyite left, in noting the conspiracy of two-party politics and the lack of choice for voters.

The best political documentary about how contemporary campaigns became mud-slinging propaganda wars is Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story (can't find a link to it online -- anyone?). He was the guy who pretty much single-handedly propelled Bush 41 into the White House with his eerie attack ads on Dukakis, including this piece of evil genius:

 
Bangpuss

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As though part-ownership by the unions -- i.e. the workers -- is a bad thing. Presumably because those $2000 of healthcare for workers 'baked' into every car will stay there. Healthcare and pensions for the workers? Tyranny!
 
luka

luka

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Santorum says he ‘almost threw up’ after reading JFK speech on separation of church and state
 
trza

trza

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Any predictions for how things are going to shake out in the next two weeks? If Santo wins tonight, he could win OH and probably every state between PA and CO. If he loses and fundraising slows, I still think he can sleepwalk and win PA, WV, OK, KS. I can't see Gingrich winning anywhere but the South, and Romney winning the Northeast, West Coast, Southwest, and getting all the delegates from VA.
 
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