Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I'm on day two of no fap April actually, mainly cos it's a big waste of my time, also don't feel entirely comfortable with porn as a thing and also I'm so bored of my wank bank

My wankhabit isn't evidence of any sort of psychic liberation at all it's evidence of an addictive personality, of no self control, psychic incarceration
 

luka

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I'm on day two of no fap April actually, mainly cos it's a big waste of my time, also don't feel entirely comfortable with porn as a thing and also I'm so bored of my wank bank

My wankhabit isn't evidence of any sort of psychic liberation at all it's evidence of an addictive personality, of no self control, psychic incarceration

Im an evangelical believer in any attempt to gain more control more freedom over the organism and wish you well in this endeavour. Crowley found when conducting similar self mastery exercises that negative reinforcement was key. So if you find yourself wanting a wank perform a chosen punitive action eg a staple through the foreskin and a punch to your own balls. That way the impulse is connected to pain and suffering.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
that is it in a nutshell. offstead inspector dissensus vs chattering alien let's 'ave it dissensus. sadly bahti falls into the former camp.

I'm not sure how to fix it. corpse and bahti want human rhythms in their machine music. whats the point of that? that's why bliss blogger wrote energy flash to begin with! some people...
 
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Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Underground music is about militancy, order and systems. All the 60’s jazz is about scales. Coltrane’s dad pegged it.

This is an interesting subject IMO although could easily (if it hasn't already) fall into crude psychoanalysis...
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
it's all a bit like the west london and some parts of the north london rare groove massive who stuck with house right through jungle because their Azymuth and pharoah sanders records were more rhythmically complex than remarc or whatever, like yes jungle is not rhythmically complex in the jazz funk sense, but its complexity is through running the breaks through the machine. hence missing the point entirely. when jungle surrenders to much to the human agenda it either becomes sea saw jump up or synthia's wine and nibbles party at the 17th century country mannerhouse.
 
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sadmanbarty

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pop music is the white hot flame of revolution, it is assertion. the individual surrenders their cognition and body to it and as such is infinitely more antihuman than the music third champions.

in his heart he is an oxford don, coy and unwilling to attain that which he speaks of.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
pop music is the white hot flame of revolution, it is assertion. the individual surrenders their cognition and body to it and as such is infinitely more antihuman than the music third champions.

in his heart he is an oxford don, coy and unwilling to attain that which he speaks of.


this would perhaps have some validity if we were living in times with political parties being reliant on mass social bases who rubberstamp their approval. but actually Kanye, Post Malone and Beyonce are far more conformist and express the dominant political trajectory than Trump or Clinton or Sanders could ever hope to do.
 

sadmanbarty

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this would perhaps have some validity if we were living in times with political parties being reliant on mass social bases who rubberstamp their approval. but actually Kanye, Post Malone and Beyonce are far more conformist and express the dominant political trajectory than Trump or Clinton or Sanders could ever hope to do.

you're treating music as surrogate english literature
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
you're treating music as surrogate english literature


looool. you do raise a good point though. I mean when so many 'underground' artists are crying that alt right corporations (namely RBMA) are no longer going to fund their music, you do have to wonder.

It's just your pop music world is just as indebted to bourgeois rule, in fact without bourgeois rule it would simply not exist in the way we know it. so either you have two options: dispense with the pop-vs-underground binary and integrate music into life as a non-separation, or make everything so multicultural that everything is pop. that would mean championing accelerationism, which would, ironically enough, make you side with Nick Land...
 
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luka

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“There is surely no reason to suppose that the actions of scientists and tycoons at this moment are less trance-like than those of the Dagwood commuter. Physics is now, directly, politics.”

Marshall McLuhan
‘The Psychopathology of Time and Life’
Neurotica 5, 1949.
 

sadmanbarty

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it stems from thirdfrom's thoma mann indebted view of the world.

he views music as an expression of people, their feelings, thoughts, emotions, ideas, etc.

my view is far more anti human than that.

the music he likes is oxford don antihumanism; a thought experiment. whereas me and corpse indulge in the real thing.
 
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