luka
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what do you guys exactly mean with antihumanist?
My touchstones here are xennakis bernard parma ham and late jh prynne
what do you guys exactly mean with antihumanist?
My touchstones here are xennakis bernard parma ham and late jh prynne
Well, that clears that up arf
My touchstones here are xennakis bernard parma ham and late jh prynne
Wrt deLillo - well, if the way you want to resist capitalism is to be an individualist famous writer, of course you're going to get co-opted because capitalism fetishises the 'exceptional' individual. Plays right into its hands. You have to resist as part of the collective in order to avoid this logic - and the collective IS the machine.
So antihumanism could be seen, as someone has said upthread, as music/art from the perspective of the machine - from the perspective of the workers who are the machine, from our perspective (unless Jeff Bezos is lurking here) when we see ourselves at a macro-level, rather than from that well-worn (cynical?) romantic perspective of us as free beings that dominates pop culture. And maybe that's why antihumanism can feel so emotive even when it's anti-emotional. The world is antihuman.
Brilliant thread: Thirdform you have really brought the obscure tunes here. Hardly heard any of these, and 90% killer.
encourage the masses to see art in the same way they are encouraged to see wealth - that a few people created it all on their own in isolation, and that they hence deserve all the plaudits and all the wealth.
This is why one of my mottoes is
You can't do it by yourself
What we are all leaving behind here is a notion of art as a limited number of buttons which being pressed give rise to a corresponding number of effects, and these being all neatly demarcated and known be it melancholy titillation or the uncanny and nor are we impressed with advanced practioners who have learned to press more than one button at once.
it is that what makes you disorientated because there are no railings to hold on to? would you say gamelan is also that? because i feel it is at the same time very human too. or maybe human and anti-human at the same time. well i dunno.