could use criticism of the music i've been doing so far?

other_life

other_life

bioconfused
as far as sorting the stupid ridiculous amounts of music i've put out,
if yr gonna listen to *one* of the older records in full make it this one and for the newer ones, that first hostb link https://hostb.org/8YY
or maybe this one (collaborative)
 
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pattycakes_

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
could be interesting for people who have managed (if there are any here) to lay out a few ways to promote other than the usual social media soundcloud stuff

getting to know people already active in a scene is one. may require travel if you're literally out in the sticks. won't always work out but you'll learn a lot in the process. not just about music but also socialising with people who are good at marketing and self aggrandizing. there's a lot to learn.
 
V

version

Well-known member
The best way to promote yourself is to find other producers and DJs you're into who have some sort of reach and hope that they play it, others will follow suit once that happens.

Presentation is also really important. You can take any mellow house record off Beatport, stick some tasteful artwork on it and call the tracks "studies" or whatever and it will instantly go up in people's estimations despite being the exact same record. It's lame, but that's the way a lot of people think. What you do around the music and how you frame it is sadly more important than the music these days.

The paid reach stuff on social media is a scam, paying for Facebook to reach a larger audience and all that. They artificially inflate the figures to make people believe that they're getting more authentic engagements than they are, it's all fake sites, clickfarms and so on. You're paying for bots and racks of smartphones to look at your page, not real people who might make up an actual audience.
 
pattycakes_

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
Afterparty etiquette 101 - learn how to have cocaine conversations. These are where all big descisions are made.
 
luka

luka

Well-known member
Given none of us are remotely succesful I'm not surecwe are qualified to give advice on how to get fsmous.
 
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CrowleyHead

Well-known member
Stop caring about earning the appreciation of a website. Do you know how easy it is to get on a website? A friend will put you on their website ultimately if you're ingratiating enough and let me tell you, as a friend of people who've ended up on tinymixtapes it literally needs only that. Most people are in magazines, on blogs, etc. etc. because they've paid to get on in one way or another. There is nothing flimsier than the validation of a website.
 
luka

luka

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I'm more interested in the music which i think represents something genuine. An historical development and situation. It think it is a kind of truth. That's what I want us to grapple with. My instinct says that other lifes job is to transcend that situation, solve the problem essentially, but that's another issue.

Other life I take to be both the greatest and most representative internet musician of all time so I can base my whole internet music analysis on this archetypal work.

That seems to me to be the most useful way of approaching the question. Berating someone for being young and isolated, without connections, or telling them they can be famous just by shouting and waving a lot is probably less helpful and also less honest.
 
luka

luka

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So with that said I will now listen to the greatest Internet album of all time, 4 lifetimes by trance biz.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
How often do great artists live in the middle of nowhere? I'm sure it must happen, especially in certain artforms, but I think music is such a social/contextual thing that there's a reason it flourishes in the great metropolitan hubs. Also, that's where the media is - which is why if you live in London and make choons, you're more likely to get a career off the back of networking alone.

But in this day and age the internet makes things easier, I'd say. You can get your name out there without leaving your room. Only problem is, so can everyone else. And now there's so many names nobody pays attention.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I think droid's yer man for informed critiques of 30 minute long drone/feedback experiments. He knows the lay of the land - I'm sufficiently impatient to be unable to provide any useful input.

As I said on the drone/ambient thread, I can't really tell the difference between what's bad and mediocre in this genre. I can hear when something is really good, I think, like GAS level good...

I listened to a bit of the first track on the old album and I liked it up until the oriental sounding melody kicked in, which got on my nerves. What I was going to say re: the track before that melody was that it sounded good but could use some more protraction, some more spacing out of the ideas. I like ambient music (if that's what it's intended to be) to be eventful, but patiently so.
 
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luka

luka

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I'm15 minutes in so far and I think you're right- this is the greatest Internet album of all time. The thing to focus on is intensifying the intensities so that emotions emote more, and the sadnesses sob more and the whole thing tugs even more brazenly on the heart strings.

The thing to focus on is an ever more vivid evocation and materialisation of immaterial spaces, climatic regions, terrains, cities, skies.

So on the one hand the work of the heart abd on the other hand the work of the imagination.

There's probably brain work you can do too but I don't understand the intellectual side of music.

This is good though. It's a kind of narcosis.
 
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