ok that was a bit harsh thereand i'm editing this post as a result. apologies. I mean I just don't really get the dancefloor as an end into itself which is probably why ive never got deep tech as such. I used to go clubbing week in week out and i always used to really dislike those tunes that sounded good on a system but when you broke them down were basically optimised for that purpose. I'd rather hear someone trying to make a primitive amen rinse out or whatever. for me it isn't even a club vs home listening thing, it's the perfectionist tendancy of so much dance music. this is what i was getting at earlier. most electronic music records sound better than they did in the 90s and 00s. that's not an opinion, that's a fact. the spatial placement of sounds, the dynamic compression, the way the digital kicks can be beefed up to hit on a club system, the glassiness of digital sound synthesis, from a technical perspective this stuff sounds amazing and 4d in a club.
Yet i've never liked a club as a club, it is alienating not because I'm a punk or whatever, simply because it isn't in my cultural DNA. If I don't enjoy the music I literally can't be there. like what am i doing there? i hardly talk to anyone apart from my mates, the drinks are too expensive, as a blind man even going for a fag or to the loo it is all taxing, not to mention bouncers and security. there has to be that force field. and i think 4d and forcefield are not the same.
I listened to that flava d fact mix the other day, i believe you were the one who recommended her. It's alright but it's too calculated. there is no forcefield. the bass is heavy but not in the way that it pounds your chest like it does in jungle with the rushing breaks. seeing industrial and noise aesthetics being repped by fashionista people i really don't think any dark or hard sound is necessarily inherently edgey. It's not about the edginess for me it's about the transcendent or greater than human ambition. now you can say well yeah it's dance music it's just about shaking your butt and sex, but ultimately that is what minimal music was historically long before the 20th century. That doesn't mean it wasn't transcendent. I don't believe they are mutually exclusive.
Again flicking through this flava d mix I'm sure I'd go for it in a club But it's not really small club/backyard material. and I'm not really into airports..
Yet i've never liked a club as a club, it is alienating not because I'm a punk or whatever, simply because it isn't in my cultural DNA. If I don't enjoy the music I literally can't be there. like what am i doing there? i hardly talk to anyone apart from my mates, the drinks are too expensive, as a blind man even going for a fag or to the loo it is all taxing, not to mention bouncers and security. there has to be that force field. and i think 4d and forcefield are not the same.
I listened to that flava d fact mix the other day, i believe you were the one who recommended her. It's alright but it's too calculated. there is no forcefield. the bass is heavy but not in the way that it pounds your chest like it does in jungle with the rushing breaks. seeing industrial and noise aesthetics being repped by fashionista people i really don't think any dark or hard sound is necessarily inherently edgey. It's not about the edginess for me it's about the transcendent or greater than human ambition. now you can say well yeah it's dance music it's just about shaking your butt and sex, but ultimately that is what minimal music was historically long before the 20th century. That doesn't mean it wasn't transcendent. I don't believe they are mutually exclusive.
Again flicking through this flava d mix I'm sure I'd go for it in a club But it's not really small club/backyard material. and I'm not really into airports..
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