All good music comes from religion

[thirdform]

What I am suggesting is that the gods have an underlying reality. The concept is not woven from thin air but has always been a marker for something real. This is what Pound meant when he said the gods are eternal states of mind. Something encountered and named not something invented wholesale.



Note that this does not imply transcendence.

I don't think they were invented, but nor do i think they were encountered either. they were *developed* along with the increasing technical organisation of society. It wasn't a conscious process, but neither have most things been in history.

 

[luka]

Have you not encountered them?

 

[luka]

I don't believe you. But have it your way. Explain what you mean by developed.

 

[thirdform]

Have you not encountered them?

No, I killed them.

 

[luka]

How can you kill them without encountering them? Explain 'develop' particularly this notion of unconscious development.

 

[sadmanbarty]

luka's gone full paxman.

 

[luka]

I have to admit my real beliefs are too deranged to share so I'm giving you a censored version.

 

[sadmanbarty]

go on luke.

 

[sadmanbarty]

all prophets were shunned. they all took that first step of revealing their revelations in the face or persecution and ridicule.

 

[sadmanbarty]

stargate us.

 

[luka]

luka's gone full paxman.

You all need it sometimes. It helps you clarify your ideas.

 

[sadmanbarty]

Is anyone on here actually religious? As in a practicing member of an organised religion.

well luka says he worships his kitchen, but other than that it seems like a resounding no.

 

[version]

How can you kill them without encountering them?

Drone strike.

 

[luka]

stargate us.

In all honesty varies according to current level of drug psychosis. Different things have seemed true at different times.

 

[padraig (u.s.)]

What I am suggesting is that the gods have an underlying reality

Ya see I don't disagree w/that at all, nor do I think it contradicts anything I said

Perhaps there's a misunderstanding around the word "invent"

As I said @ work rn, but when I get home will look thru posts, more complete response

 

[sadmanbarty]

give us the best one. go full manson on us.

 

[luka]

Ya see I don't disagree w/that at all, nor do I think it contradicts anything I said

Perhaps there's a misunderstanding around the word "invent"

As I said @ work rn, but when I get home will look thru posts, more complete response

Ok. Well Good, I'm glad yo hear it. I don't like fighting any more. I used to but I've gone off it.

 

[version]

Flouting the YT ban to post this very relevant classic.

 

[luka]

give us the best one. go full manson on us.

I'll explain it in person at a suitable time and place.

 

[thirdform]

is barty lukes partner and his actual name is elspeth.