luka
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poptimism feels overbearing at this point. rockism is defeated, it's a non issue, no one wants to be a rockist. but i shouldn't have to figure out why people really like billie eilish or whoever, or even admit they really do. i shouldn't have to accept this shit that doesn't appeal to me just to prove to nobody i have broad taste or, worse, can 'see something of aesthetic value in anything'. the narrative around and presentation of beyonce's s/t (even if i liked lots of the production on it). conde nast's pitchfork and everything ab pitchfork that made conde nast interested in the first place.
thirdform is just so lucid i'm stupefied to respond.
how can i know, for example, if being into the pistols in the 70s or new order in the 80s really did mean something, why would it mean something fundamentally different, really substantially be a marker of some kind of Subcultural Leftism, than it does now, than what being into migos means: that it resonates with your body?
really keen on describing 'right wing deconstruction'. the inability to draw lines of demarcation, to ground one's self in materiality, as politzer puts it to know the hurtling bus is real and not ideal without getting in its path... it's pathological. it's suffocating. and it somehow feels linked to what feels that way about poptimism.
ofc a partisan for third's position of hypermodernism/continuing modernism/realising we're still in modernity?, setting restrictions with intent in order to open aleatory possibilities.
I absolutely agree poptimism needs to be destroyed as rockism was a generation before. My point is that you can't do that be defaulting to a rockist critique. This is why I asked you Marxists what the next dialectical step is. We have to critique pop as corporate product as propaganda and advertising I think, have to be allowed to do that, without regressing to the old banalities and illusions