space for my spitballs on esoterica (yours too)

[other_life]

changing thread title, also.

 

[luka]

I work on the assumption that both number word and image
are preceded by a more basic information unit. that those info-units
are translated into number/word/image and something is lost in the process
that word is impure from the start that number is inaccurate from the start
because something is lost in the transition

 

[other_life]

it is not the word which is the divine child coming to save us, but the word which must be saved and thereby adopted/welcomed back into The Family

 

[other_life]

language the most corruptible material?

 

[luka]

I don't know. What does, eg, the great vowel shift denote? Corruption? Or something else?

 

[luka]

I really don't know. And I wouldn't hazard a guess. All I can see are possibilities.

 

[luka]

"I address myself to the primal history of quality, as a designation for accumulations of motive simultaneous with patterns of behaviour as convergence. I could take this as place-focus, but just as well in the discretionary image of a person, or local convulsions in the sequence of time."
Jhp

 

[luka]

Quality as place, spot stood on

"The local disposing, the
quality as firstly position"

Quality as personal, ours

"That is, a quality of man and his becoming"

"It's his nature, the quality he extends
into the world"

Quality as something lost and hoped for

"The qualities then are a name, corporately, for a hope that they will return to us"

 

[luka]

The Attempt to imagine the entirety of human history. The reaching out of the imagination into the distant past https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1881/ethnographical-notebooks/notebooks.pdf

 

[luka]

Talk. I have a need for engagement

 

[other_life]

gahhh sorry my brain is all over the place rn

 

[other_life]

I don't know. What does, eg, the great vowel shift denote? Corruption? Or something else?

an extension of the anatomical presupposition of language: upward movement, further movement into the head

 

[other_life]

towards defining quality

a designation for accumulations of motive simultaneous with patterns of behaviour as convergence

accumulations of motive, or accumulations with simultaneous motives?
"accumulations" "converge" with "patterns of behavior". all unspecified.

place, spot stood on
personal, ours
something lost and hoped for

The Attempt to imagine the entirety of human history. The reaching out of the imagination into the distant past

the hermetic delusion: comprehensive, world-spanning knowledge. athanasius kircher. john dee.

 

[luka]

an extension of the anatomical presupposition of language: upward movement, further movement into the head

Yes, if we work with a narrative of incremental movement Away from an original purity which Prynne flirts with without committing to

 

[luka]

E.g

"But the names,
do you not see, are just
The tricks we
trust, which
we choose.
The qualities then are a name, corporately,
for the hope they will return to us. The
virtue in whose exercise we retain the fiction
of air, silence round the hub of the week."

 

[luka]

Have you read fenellosa?

 

[luka]

The Chinese written character as a medium for poetry

 

[luka]

http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=14478

 

[version]

What's going on here?

 

[other_life]

language is a virus from outer space.