Corpsey

bandz ahoy
the repulsiveness of english sexuality.

every sexual story having to end in some horrifically scatological or emotionally damaging way.

horrible, acne-riddled weasels from bermondsey running their finger under your nose in an effort to boast and there just being this pungent scent of bacterial vaginosis burning your lungs.

English porn

Kitchen-sink realism

Like that bit in Withnail and I when he's watching the old woman eating a runny fried egg sandwich
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
54) Rebel MC - Tribal Bass.

The best recontextualisation of barrington levy's classic. some days its my favourite record of all time. but there is another 91 hardcore record that just inches it above for me in this list. hip hop breaks meet fast chat in the most consummate form. no going back to pop dancehall after this if you know what's good for you.



love how much elements and samples have been put together in this track. a true collage of sounds. and again, enya!
 

luka

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wanted to well not divorce the cannon from rock but also show that there were alternative pathways to reach equivalent (maybe even greater) intensities. the unthought in disco realising itself in electro and chicago acid.

I only understand a fraction of thirds comments but this makes sense to me. I don't think of this stuff as rock by other means, and conceptualising it in terms of intensities is a good way to go. If we experience those intensities as a hostile force, as an attempt to overwhelm our defences, I think that we necessarily recoil, or refuse to engage, distance ourselves in one way or another, but if we can, tune ourselves in to those frequencies, enter inside of it and have it enter us, the experience is quite different. It's not what I gravitate to as a rule but I I'm not dismissive of it. Like webeschatology, this list put me in the strange and unexpected position of enjoying a gabba track. Weird. how did that happen?
 

thirdform

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luka has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

and yes Luke, totally agree.
 

luka

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But for the record I've just deleted a load of messages off here too all avenues are open
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
I only understand a fraction of thirds comments but this makes sense to me. I don't think of this stuff as rock by other means, and conceptualising it in terms of intensities is a good way to go. If we experience those intensities as a hostile force, as an attempt to overwhelm our defences, I think that we necessarily recoil, or refuse to engage, distance ourselves in one way or another, but if we can, tune ourselves in to those frequencies, enter inside of it and have it enter us, the experience is quite different. It's not what I gravitate to as a rule but I I'm not dismissive of it. Like webeschatology, this list put me in the strange and unexpected position of enjoying a gabba track. Weird. how did that happen?

I'm also not convinced of the death of rock. It did continue, just not on London's radar. that in itself is an interesting dynamic. obviously, for whatever reasons, black music from america and jamaica was more popular than the 'overtly working class' coded punk rock. why might that be? I'm sure Eden can drop some science here. like grooverider was into punk for a bit but he didn't do any of the hair styles and dressing up stuff. there was a division there. between the punks and the dance and dub heads. Yes obviously we know a lot of the original punks were into reggae. but come 1984 there was a real division. That division, i feel like had i lived then i would have to take sides really. just like people took sides between jungle and happy. I can't imagine being into the smiths and Rakim simultaneously.
 
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thirdform

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well, barry through down the gauntlet! although there are a few pieces that could be considered rock in their own idiosyncratic way in the list, the atlantics, the egyptian one and the selda. it's an interesting thought though, why is noise conflated with rock in the popular imaginary. on the surface this seems like a dumb self-evident question, but i feel there are threads worth teasing out.
 
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thirdform

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What we need of course is blissbloggers exposition and commentary on the list,
Trilliam's takedown.

Woebot telling me that my list is heart fm in the year 2044 for aging ravers.
 

thirdform

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This feels like the long-overdue anti-canonic expansion of the canon, a rerouting of the continuum. Starting points for exploration in a wholly different direction. Even managing to include and recontextualise a record I recorded off the radio when I was about 12 years old (Silver Bullet). Love it.

Obviously you're one of the older heads on here, perhaps was even more in the the thick and thin of it 92, maybe more even than bliss, I can't say.

What do you think can be done with this framework, this roadmap, or this tableau? Obviously, I know its nuts and bolts, as I condensed it into a compact stream as it were. but if we uncoil it, then what happens? what happens when we zoom in with a microscope? What do we get apart from sound collage, what am i saying as this grand cultural statement as craner put it? am i basically just a closetted dj/rupture? i mean, i can't say I'd completely object to that, but at the same time I do have a fierce london tribalism running through me. Someone from manchester would probably include more detroit tracks or whatever. ditto also the um. i don't like using the word PC for obvious reasons but the interpretation of the gospel.

Barty's behind the time barrier is interesting for me. He is certainly more in touch with contemporary trends than i am. am i just evading reality and being the token retrofetishising digger, ultimately? I do tend to object to that because like crowl says for aphex the reason why he's so lauded is because of his conceptualism/home listening, his album format. obviously music should be about freedom, yet there seems to be something so.

I don't know, I was hoping people read the list from the perspective of a deep sadness and melancholy as well. not the melancholy of a lost utopia per se. did that occur to anyone?
 
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luka

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I'm still a bit bleary and addled but I do have some thoughts which I will articulate when I'm sharper
 
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