it's Germany and I'm forever reminded of that Wolfgang Voight video where he's talking about mathematically analysing the funk and reducing it down to a non euphoric formula or whatever blah blah. They don't seem to value funk here.
So? black music (and especially black dance music) hasn't since at least the mid 80s. the jack and funk are not the same are they? one is gay, the other is straight. yes that's an oversimplification but detroit techno owes far more to gay disco than its proponents would like to admit. house and techno and later jungle trailblazed a new type of rhythmic interaction which was not funky in the p-funk sense and even early electro boogie, as great as that stuff is. Like, Wolfgang's quote might seem a bit dumb, but it's not something to pull your hair out over.
The more nihilist the better. Look at how they dress and present themselves. It's beyond gothic. Satanic health goth.
So? the acid smiley t-shirts in this country were the triumph of thatcherism, not its overcoming. Cringe inducing fads have existed in dance music since day 1. and I agree the satanic goth stuff is cringe...
Music, purely mental stimulation. No desire to stir the body. Wtf is that? A nazi plot is what but let's not. Ahem.
this is total nonsense though isn't it. By that logic darkside hardcore jungle from 93 is not dance music, bunker/cologne acid is not dance music (obviously i know you don't subscribe to this pov as you are into the dutch stuff.) the berlin stuff is not a music of mental stimulation, it's just greyscale drone techno to set a pseudo-mood, but so is tech house and prog house. yet prog house along with trance is the biggest dance music in the world. doesn't make it good but facts is facts. Maybe the problem is *the club itself* and not specifically berghain?
Yeah and what has me being a middle easterner got to do with the price of eggs?
Because when it comes down to it, I'm the one who nf thugs are gonna beat up first, not you. You'll only ever get beaten up for going against them, not for merely existing. there was no bringing together of the races for us. we grew up as a population under police surveillance and constantly stereotyped as fundamentalists. the psychic armour necessary for us to navigate the UK is different to you with yer shirt off jumping around on 5 pingers. even when me and my mates did MD, we were far more reserved than some of you lot.
I don't get why you bring that into it all the time. I don't see things the way you do when it comes to clubbing. I have direct experience with clubs that fit the ideals I fart on about on here constantly and they remain some of the nicest moments in my life. I will continue to look for them. I do speed and sometimes I like it, but the fkn downslope sucks worse than being held in a leg lock by big ol Drusilla with the hairy moles for 3 hours straight. Haha I bet you like that bit tho? ;p Even if it only lasted for a short time, there was a moment when raves were a rich cross section of society all on the same vibe and being healed in a way that can only be done by that magic recipe of loud music and serotonin rushes. That shit is love man. I know u don't believe in it, but I do, damn it!
It's not about not believing in it. Look, I've had *a very very few* amazing times on mdma. but it's not real. eventually you have to come to terms with that. that's why darkside hardcore and hard techno happened. you're buying peace for three bucks a hit but you're not remotely breaking from the establishment or even *the established way of things* Gonzo is absolutely right on this. Tim Leary was not on our side, he was a snaik oils salesman and an archetypical liberal capitalist. 'Consciousness-expanding' acid culture was used to invoke the opposite, consciousness suppression, only leaving "failed seekers and permanent cripples". The war on drugs has always been a war against us, not a war to liberate us. By God I'd be an absolute hypocrite if I started censoring myself but it's true. You just have to look at what the Italian mafia did with the autonomist movements and what the CIA did with the panthers to see my point. Even going back the opium wars. like, believe in it if you want, but at least acknowledge its a belief and a voluntary self-deception, not a blueprint for achieving any kind of radical love. I'm not anti-love, I just don't think raves give you that unless you are a part of a certain psychedelic/psychonaut contingent, which I am not.