"The Great University Con"

luka

luka

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There doesn't seem anything to be gained by pretending this is not the case. Corpsey has a masters in English.
 
Leo

Leo

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The people my age I know who did English at uni ended up working in PR and marketing and don't strike me as particularly "literary".
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Lots of that here too. I've found there are many businesspeople, including senior executives, who are smart but don't really know how to write. I was a lowly Journalism/English major grad who would get pulled into a CEOs or VPs office and asked to draft speeches, memos, bylined articles, etc. Some of them obviously are just too busy to spend the time needed to write it themselves, but a fair number of them are just not decent writers, and love it when they find someone who can take their bullet-points and make them sound articulate.

That's a saving grace in the business world for many English grads. You don't even have to be a great writer, mere average competence can get you far in the States. I mean, look at me!
 
shakahislop

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Leo said:
I guess the question is whether you would have actually taught yourself to that extent if you didn't have the college structure. kind of like someone saying "ah, if I hadn't bought my house and paid a mortgage for the past 10 years, I'd have another $300k in the bank"...but would they have actually saved that much, or blown chunks of it on other thing?

I'm hardly a big college booster but it forced me to read things I'd probably never bother with or even know about otherwise, think about certain things I'd never otherwise think about, be in direct contact with thousands of people from around the world who I'd never otherwise have a chance to meet. all of that had a huge positive impact on my development. not to say I wouldn't have developed without it, but it definitely broadened my perspective.
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part of the joe rogan et al thing is a load of people getting into social science I think, but without the university structure as guidance. talking to my brother who loves all that half the time i just end up thinking he needs to hear about some actual social science, the classics, that kind of thing
 
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luka

luka

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That's boring though and they all say different things anyway which you can reduce down to the simple things idiots in the pub say so it's all pointless and he might as well stick with Joe
 
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Nothing wrong with people listening to rogan per se it can be another one of those ways to get through the day if you're stuck on a job with someone boring who doesnt like football etc; i was on site the christmas before corona with a couple of mma wideboys who had both watched one about bob lazar and had a good morning talking about area 51 and aliens and shit. It has certainly expanded the consciousness of some lads in a strange sense.

It's just a shame his politics have got so one dimensional and boring it was better when he still had a bit of cosmic mysticism about him. That said, it's not the same without Joey anyway
 
shakahislop

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luka said:
That's boring though and they all say different things anyway which you can reduce down to the simple things idiots in the pub say so it's all pointless and he might as well stick with Joe
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yeah but it leaves him without the really good stuff. The cutting edge stuff with all the nuance. I think he'd like all the ideas. It's the ideas which are the exciting part of all of this anyway. There's an emotional edge to it as well but everyone is drunk off ideas at the moment and those kinds of podcasts are one of the vectors.

The problem with the standard university stuff that it's generally written down in books, and like most people he's not into reading.
 
Q

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One person that got lower GCSEs than me at my school went to Oxford. I left for the local sixth form and ended up at the University of Humberside (my fault mainly). Was pretty unemployable at the end of it.

I never had any careers advice iirc.
 
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