Do aesthetics map to politics?

[WashYourHands]

Mental health in particular's a difficult knot to unpick. How much of your outlook stems from your illness and how much from the way you've been treated due to said illness?

In this atomized age of ours, is Dissensus a kind of male support group?

https://x.com/TheCensoredRock/status/1734236218471162071?s=20 Maybe a little toxic here from time to time, especially when certain one-note regulars descend into the usual abuse patterns (I assume that's some kind of leftist cry for help — but that's OK! We're here for you homies). It's not...

www.dissensus.com

 

[version]

Something to keep in mind with philosophers, artists, etc. How universal is their worldview, really? Came up in the catastrophe thread re: Ballard's very cynical, very Freudian view of human nature.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

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[Corpsey]

That's a good point.

I've read somewhere that the average length of hair grows and shortens according to the economic health of a culture. Under this theory the recession led to a cutback in hair and (I'm spitballing) a tightening of trousers.

I think this theory can be discounted now that I'm seeing longish/long hair making a resurgence among the youth and also giant baggy trousers, despite the economy being in the dumps

 

[luka]

I think this theory can be discounted now that I'm seeing longish/long hair making a resurgence among the youth and also giant baggy trousers, despite the economy being in the dumps

i was in the (quite posh) pub near my house recently and all the staff had got at least ten years younger and they looked like teenagers looked in the 90s. diiffident, awkward, gawky, terribly dressed. baggy shapeless clothes that just sort of hung off them. teenagers havent looked or behaved like that in a long time. it was weird.

 

[shiels]

Im convinced we will look back on this era as the worst ever for fashion, ever, ever. nihilistic, a bad joke

 

[shiels]

In a sense there is more than every to play with and people do take risks and are very expressive but all the meaning has been emptied out and it just feels like internet trash. like windows 98 error messages clogging up your screen, fake gambling sites and cuntwars ads, its mental clutter

 

[WashYourHands]

Post pandemic there hasn’t been an appropriate amount of time for an informal vetting procedure of mates building up a healthy form of constructive cohort criticism, ie “you can’t wear them/that/those out, you look like a cock” etc

Give it four/five years and we may get past it, at least the days of Robbie Savage ultra-quiffs are over, brrrrr shudder

 

[Mr. Tea]

i was in the (quite posh) pub near my house recently and all the staff had got at least ten years younger

So they've discovered the Fountain of Eternal Youth, but it has a side-effect that it turns you into an awkward dork.

 

[wild greens]

Mental health in particular's a difficult knot to unpick. How much of your outlook stems from your illness and how much from the way you've been treated due to said illness?

I may have said it on here before- who knows- but I think a lot of the modern "mental health awareness" is actually a marketing technique to sell a new spectrum of products where other revenue streams have ebbed away

I don't use amazon but look at the amount of absolute shite in here

Amazon.co.uk : wellbeing gifts

www.amazon.co.uk

"How much of your outlook stems from your illness" vs "How does the media barrage of wellness influence you to attributing minor societal ails to a grander malaise that may or may not actually exist"

Not to belittle those with genuine issues but a lot of this is absolute bollocks

 

[wild greens]

Neither Starmer or Sunak know how to dress.

 

[craner]

i was in the (quite posh) pub near my house recently and all the staff had got at least ten years younger and they looked like teenagers looked in the 90s. diiffident, awkward, gawky, terribly dressed. baggy shapeless clothes that just sort of hung off them. teenagers havent looked or behaved like that in a long time. it was weird.

Yeah, I've really noticed this resurrection of baggy recently

 

[HMGovt’s Glorious Return!]

I predict England will become more shabbily dressed as the decade grinds on. Ragged sportswear, genuinely distressed jeans, shoes gone all fucked and open toed. The Ragged Twenties. Calling it.

There's about as much money around as there was in the 90s

 

[version]

I may have said it on here before- who knows- but I think a lot of the modern "mental health awareness" is actually a marketing technique to sell a new spectrum of products where other revenue streams have ebbed away

I don't use amazon but look at the amount of absolute shite in here

Amazon.co.uk : wellbeing gifts

www.amazon.co.uk

"How much of your outlook stems from your illness" vs "How does the media barrage of wellness influence you to attributing minor societal ails to a grander malaise that may or may not actually exist"

Not to belittle those with genuine issues but a lot of this is absolute bollocks

I had genuine mental illness in mind when I made that post, people with things like schizophrenia who may be paranoid due to the illness but also because they've been medicated, institutionalised, arrested, etc.

The mental health awareness / self-care thing's a different kettle of fish, like you say. That seems to be the same old emphasis on "efficiency", "productivity" and "optimisation" wearing a benevolent mask. Same as with the superficial diversity stuff in Hollywood. The human skin designed to conceal the Terminator.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Yeah, I've really noticed this resurrection of baggy recently

The baggy trend has been passed down from high fashion. Let’s explain fashion using cellular automata. This isn’t going to be cringe-inducingly nerdy at all!

 

[mixed_biscuits]

I had genuine mental illness in mind when I made that post, people with things like schizophrenia who may be paranoid due to the illness but also because they've been medicated, institutionalised, arrested, etc.

The mental health awareness / self-care thing's a different kettle of fish, like you say. That seems to be the same old emphasis on "efficiency", "productivity" and "optimisation" wearing a benevolent mask. Same as with the superficial diversity stuff in Hollywood. The human skin designed to conceal the Terminator.

Have you read RD Laing on schizophrenia?

 

[version]

Have you read RD Laing on schizophrenia?

No.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

No.

The Divided Self is right up your angle's alley

 

[wild greens]

I had genuine mental illness in mind when I made that post, people with things like schizophrenia who may be paranoid due to the illness but also because they've been medicated, institutionalised, arrested, etc.

Ah sorry that makes a bit more sense now actually

A lad my brother went school with definitely got bent out of shape when he got sectioned, the lad had his problems but once he came out he was a shell of himself; like im not sure he was even "bad enough" to go in, was more a drug psychosis if anything

Very quick slope down that institutional world i think

 

[WashYourHands]

I had genuine mental illness in mind when I made that post, people with things like schizophrenia who may be paranoid due to the illness but also because they've been medicated, institutionalised, arrested, etc.

The mental health awareness / self-care thing's a different kettle of fish, like you say. That seems to be the same old emphasis on "efficiency", "productivity" and "optimisation" wearing a benevolent mask. Same as with the superficial diversity stuff in Hollywood. The human skin designed to conceal the Terminator.

Self-care is at the heart of mental health, ie we all know what the opposite of such means individually (at least some of the time) and we each personalise our own self-care around where the event horizon of the Pit exists, soul capture n all that or restarting drinking whatever individual circumstance

We do this because we’ve often been through the opposite side of self care and witnessed where it takes us, such processes can have merits too of course - leaning in to a problem, going through rather than around, taking higher doses of whatever seeking a breakthrough but it’s playing with fire too

You could do a solid word association list around terms laden with institutionalised allusions, see also ‘sectioned‘ as per WG’s post, unfortunately we still don’t have a mental healthcare system where asylum means just that - you absolutely can go in as extremely vulnerable and come out far far worse because whatever you think of Kesey he was on the nose about Nurse Ratched. Another example is a disciplinary hearing currently attending where staff were leaving a fire alarm on all night disconnecting the emergency access line in the process

8000 deaths, let me write the number for gravitas…. ‘eight thousand deaths’ were recorded under a single regional system for mental health across East Anglia recently, makes you wonder what the national backdrop really is

Police requested to investigate more than 8,000 mental health deaths

Police in Norfolk and Suffolk have been urged to investigate more than 8,000 deaths of mental health patients in the past three years.

www.edp24.co.uk