The Shining Ones

[pattycakes_]

https://www.revisionisthistory.org/kingkill33.html

Totally mad shit. I saw it in a book called Apocalypse Culture years ago in the depths of my conspiracy research

 

[luka]

You don't need to subscribe to the idea that this is planned and executed by people in accordance with ritual the ritual could be inherent in the fabric of things. An archetypal patterns that recurs throughout time with different actors.

 

[luka]

Iain Sinclair draws on this stuff a fair bit specially his Hawksmoor/Jack the Ripper riffs

 

[luka]

"Never allow anyone the luxury of assuming that because the dead and deadening scenery of the American city-of-dreadful-night is so utterly devoid of mystery, so thoroughly flat-footed, sterile and infantile, so burdened with the illusory gloss of "baseball-hot dogs-apple-pie-and-Chevrolet" that it is somehow outside the psycho-sexual domain."

 

[sufi]

It's the image that's real. That's what we consume. The actual person doesn't exist.

tales of decolonisation

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...-license-3d-scan-3000-year-old-bust-nefertiti.

nefertiti - a celeb only due the survival of her image directly through this very artefact. i recall the initial performance attempt to 3d scan the object, it seems that was bogus, and it seems this guy's approach was more productive https://cosmowenman.com/ - wrestling the babylonians using rank and contacts and the system and legalese and being "professional",

e.g. in this correspondence the babylonians reveal their assumptions and entitlement about their rights to exploitation of the shining one https://cosmowenman.files.wordpress...nman-rodins-thinker-3d-scan-access-effort.pdf

 

[IdleRich]

Totally mad shit. I saw it in a book called Apocalypse Culture years ago in the depths of my conspiracy research

Oh I've read that actually... long time ago though and obviously I don't recall it that well.

 

[luka]

I was thinking when I saw bartys interjection
corpsey

I really like you by Carly Rae
corpsey

Is a sort of meta commentary on social media itself
1m

corpsey

If you want to view it through that lens
corpsey

The reallys in it could even be sarcastic
corpsey

Or at least superficial
45s
Ray Cappuccino

yes, theres a trolling aspect to all the genetic elite who lord it over us
Ray Cappuccino

i agree absolutely
Ray Cappuccino

giving us motivational messages
corpsey

Through another lens it's about the giddiness of love
corpsey

I love that song so
corpsey

I'm inclined not to scour it for clues

 

[luka]

that's a really really good point corpsey, thank you mate, and i would like to elaborate on that if i may

remember that carly rae is also not just carly rae, is only secondarily carly rae being first and foremost
a front, a figurehead and delivery system for a propaganda message.

remember my rule of thumb

top down culture is not culture it's propaganda

so the words are not her words but the words of the controllers and the overlords. ideology.

there is a trolling aspect to all the genetic elite who lord it over us
giving us motivational messages while we wallow in the shit and toil in the salt mines and they sit on a cloud drinking honey and ambrosia.

they speak through these young beautiful masks but they are not the young beautiful masks, and many would say they are not human beings at all.

 

[IdleRich]

I saw a quote the other day on facebook, was it Ballard or DeLillo or something, anyway, the gist of it was something like

"Looking into his eyes he finally completely understood that the very rich were no longer even remotely human"

I guess it could equally be David Icke. But this is the problem with this isn't it? As soon as you start talking about how the ultrarich are totally different from us, live in a different world and act only for their own interests you are gonna be involved with people who think they are lizards from the planet Israel which is not at all the same thing. If I wanted to make my own conspiracy theory it would be one that the super rich had spread around an extreme version of actuality, taking things to their illogical conclusions to undermine those stating the horrible truth by association.

 

[catalog]

It was Gibbo:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/126076-and-for-an-instant-she-stared-directly-into-those-soft

 

[Corpsey]

I don't buy it. Some of them are superrich because they're ruthless psychopaths, so if we admit that being a psychopath means that you're lacking a key component of what makes us human. But as I'm always banging on about here, a lot of us - if I may speak for a lot of us - are living lives of extreme material privilege, walking past homeless people every five minutes (if you're in London), otherwise not coming into contact with poverty (if we can help it), and feel only the vaguest twinges of guilt about it. We certainly aren't rioting in the streets for income equality. The most most of us do is put a Vote Labour sign in our window. Dutifully fill up the recycle bin.

To be selfish, insulated against what threatens your comfort, etc. is - I would suggest - the human norm. (Not precluding compassionate acts, cooperation, etc.)

I'm not trying to excuse the superrich here, and clearly being that rich selects for ruthlessness and egotism in the first place. But I wonder if turning the superrich into the evil ones lets US off the hook..

 

[luka]

"Is there an Enemy?"

 

[Corpsey]

From the point of view of a penniless beggar, looking in my eyes they might think there was an absence of humanity. That's if they make eye contact, which is quite hard as I'm usually very interested in my watch or smartphone as I pass them.

 

[luka]

The thing about the mega rich that allows the imagination space to roam is what that kind of wealth would allow you to do.

 

[luka]

Corrupt governments (the great wealth of organised crime groups shows what's possible) host private peado parties for the great and the good on your own private island, found some kinda freaky cult or religion, like, anything really, if you're a billionaire, sky is the limit

 

[IdleRich]

I hear what you're saying Corpsey, it's probably a question of degree not kind. But the thing is, I do walk past a beggar (and fairly often we might interact) but how often do any of us just walk past a billionaire? They are in a separate world in that they travel insulated from the hoi polloi (except for servants) and they go bars and restaurants we can't afford to go in and they live in houses we aren't even allowed to approach. Abramovich has a yacht with surface to air missiles and that blocks any attempt to photograph it. Being that far separated surely has to have some kind of affect right? Not even evil, just not understanding. There was this programme about rich kids and we watched it and I loved this bit where this guy was showing how egalitarian he was "I don't care if your t-shirt cost five thousand dollars or five hundred... no wait, is that still quite an expensive one?".

 

[luka]

"And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.”

We don't know the context but there's nothing to indicate that the rich are evil. It may refer more to the realities of their lives, the absence of limits, the frictionless ease, the fact of being above geography, above laws, beyond good and evil!

 

[IdleRich]

Yeah I guess but there is an implication that it's not a good thing.

 

[luka]

It's definitely not a good thing I just think corpse was looking at it a bit too narrowly

 

[Corpsey]

It's definitely not a good thing I just think corpse was looking at it a bit too narrowly

To me that quote seems to suggest a narrow conception of what "human" is.

Is it merely self-consolation to suggest that the superrich aren't above suffering? They can do whatever they like in some ways, but do they feel completely frictionless, completely satisfied? I wonder.