I have heard rumour that Boy Better Know are collaborating with Gang Gang Dance, now that I would like to hear.
Yeah, I saw GGD with BBK supporting, and the new GGD stuff has some pretty grime/dubstep bass weight action going on. Obviously (and with reference to the Hadouken stuff) the kind of appropriation which occurs with an art rock group like GGD is not entirely unproblematic, but I suspect the results will be far more intriguing (and preserve the more interesting aspects of grime- ie the faltering rhythms and bright plastic electronic production) than a lame attempt (born of the marketing man's eye for lining up demographic opportunities) to mash up pub-indie and grime...
I saw Gang Gang Dance a few weeks ago in Brooklyn as well, and I wouldn't say that that there was a great deal of grime or dubstep "bass weight" at work, certainly not at the level that I would call "appropriation" much less "problematic appropriation." Yeah, sure, the absence of a bass player and Brian's interest in cheap technology (including massive bass at times, yes) may lend a few bassy bits and grimey sounds to it, sure, but, in proportion to the other compositional and sonic ideas on display, I'd say that grime/dubstep ranks pretty low - if anything they sound a lot more like trashy-glossy Balkan or Central Asian pop than East London in my humble opinion. Brian also loves that yamaha dd 50, the cheapo drum pad thing, which he plays a lot, and often in tandem with synths, but I'd say that overwhelmingly Gang Gang Dance are pursuing their own sound, which doesn't really sound like anyone else. They certainly don't sound like art rock dudes appropriating grime, not yet anyway (and they are now hella more organized and composed than what's on god's money, a record i like very much incidentally). lizzie's vocals for another thing, how she uses a delay pedal and repeatedly turns off the send volume so you only get waves of echo, very much her own sound and not grimey at all. Maybe your show was different, obv the presence of Tinchy guesting will be fun to hear, in any case I guess the record in a month will tell the story. I could be wrong, maybe they are grime appropriators.Yeah, I saw GGD with BBK supporting, and the new GGD stuff has some pretty grime/dubstep bass weight action going on. Obviously (and with reference to the Hadouken stuff) the kind of appropriation which occurs with an art rock group like GGD is not entirely unproblematic, but I suspect the results will be far more intriguing (and preserve the more interesting aspects of grime- ie the faltering rhythms and bright plastic electronic production) than a lame attempt (born of the marketing man's eye for lining up demographic opportunities) to mash up pub-indie and grime...
woah..
http://www.theluminaire.co.uk/main.php?section=events&month=AUGUST&event=214&year=2006
Main support are Boy Better Know, a UK Garage act featuring Tinchy Stryder (guesting on the new Gang Gang Dance album), JME and DJ Maximum.
http://www.hideoutstore.com/outlook/?p=396
damn..
GGD sound interesting. this riddim x tune is sort of IDMish though, not so much grime although some of the bass sounds are kinda like early grime/gabba-ish. the gods money track has some dubstep influence. dont know what their album is like but the myspace songs arent what i imagined them being like at all.
I saw Gang Gang Dance a few weeks ago in Brooklyn as well, and I wouldn't say that that there was a great deal of grime or dubstep "bass weight" at work, certainly not at the level that I would call "appropriation" much less "problematic appropriation." Yeah, sure, the absence of a bass player and Brian's interest in cheap technology (including massive bass at times, yes) may lend a few bassy bits and grimey sounds to it, sure, but, in proportion to the other compositional and sonic ideas on display, I'd say that grime/dubstep ranks pretty low - if anything they sound a lot more like trashy-glossy Balkan or Central Asian pop than East London in my humble opinion. Brian also loves that yamaha dd 50, the cheapo drum pad thing, which he plays a lot, and often in tandem with synths, but I'd say that overwhelmingly Gang Gang Dance are pursuing their own sound, which doesn't really sound like anyone else. They certainly don't sound like art rock dudes appropriating grime, not yet anyway (and they are now hella more organized and composed than what's on god's money, a record i like very much incidentally). lizzie's vocals for another thing, how she uses a delay pedal and repeatedly turns off the send volume so you only get waves of echo, very much her own sound and not grimey at all. Maybe your show was different, obv the presence of Tinchy guesting will be fun to hear, in any case I guess the record in a month will tell the story. I could be wrong, maybe they are grime appropriators.