Today at 9:45 PM precisely, a bunch of shady characters were loafing around discussing the election results.
Leo said: "trump's campaign has filed two lawsuits in Pennsylvania, one saying they should stop counting votes and the other saying they should count them faster. it's the trump way."
Rich added: "He's demanding they stop counting in Penn where he's ahead (but narrowing) and that they count every last vote in AZ where he's behind. Will this shameless opportunism hinder any court cases he brings? I mean if they can see him arguing both sides of the same issue in different places doesn't that make it clear he's not acting in good faith?
a couple of minutes earlier in the evening
padraig (u.s.) raised an eybrow and said: "yeah, it's all upthread, Trump had been setting it up for weeks, pulled the trigger on it last night, now they're all following thru
maybe talking about it enough influences the SC, both to get involved, and individual justices
it's a low-percentage play but it's also low-risk, high-reward. can't hurt, might help, and if you don't give a shit about responsibility, decorum, etc there's no reason not to. Rich replied "I guess it doesn't cost them anything (except any last vestiges of integrity obviously)."
Leo, a Well-known member jumped into the conversation to update everybocy: "NY Times has biden at 253 without Arizona and Nevada. "
IdleRich said: So what have they called that AP haven't?
Anyway... "Fox News cuts away from the Trump campaign press conference in PA to call Michigan for Biden" which is beautiful.
Leo complimented the candidate in a backhanded manner "nice to hear someone sound reassuring, positive, like an adult. almost presidential, dare I say..." and displayed a short film to illustrate his point. "compared to trump, I mean."he added with a regretful twinkle in his eye.
Rich read out an excerpt from a news source: " Seth Abramson
BREAKING NEWS (NYT): Counting Resumes in Georgia; Trump Lead Disappearing (Down to 1.4%); Biden Is Current Favorite (64%) to Win State, Per Final "Needle Update" by New York Times " and commented "It's so close now.... can almost touch it.
Trump is gonna need an awful lot of lawsuits to overturn all these states.
Though it looks as though the main fraud was committed by Republicans in Florida of course."
"Oh my" Said rich, gawping at a film of a guy with a mullet doing his nut, " He's totally lost it now... what's he gonna do next?", reporting a quote "Donald Trump: We have claimed, for Electoral Vote purposes, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania (which won’t allow legal observers) the State of Georgia, and the State of North Carolina, each one of which has a BIG Trump lead. Additionally, we hereby claim the State of Michigan if, in fact,..... "
Leo shrugged "oh, he's gonna get a lot worse and nonsensical than that.
john eden cordially interjected something that simon Silverdollarcircle had said: "Yeah one thing I've been thinking about Trump is that for all the massive adultation he gets from the base, he's not very good at politics is he? Like he succeeds despite himself. All the needless crises, own goals (the whole injecting bleach stuff), pissing off former allies.You get someone with his bat shit views and showmanship, but who's actually vaguely competent in politics and they'd be unbeatable", adding "
This is my worry. They get better and we don’t. Farage is a Nick Griffin upgrade. Tommy Robinson is also a Nick Griffin upgrade. Maybe we’ll get Trump version 2 next.
Meanwhile the left has Corbyn and Bernie running ZX81 operating systems."
Leo suggested cynically that: "if biden wins, can you imagine how horrible our current president victim/crybaby will be until January 20? I'll bet he wouldn't attend joe's inauguration.
version, looking like daffy duck piped up: "Hopefully Twitter can ban Trump if he loses the presidency. He's just another private citizen violating their terms and conditions at that point. I dunno whether they'd be willing to sacrifice the traffic he draws, mind you."
Leo, a Well-known member replied "in the states, I'm curious/eager to see the new generation of progressive candidates. Bernie's the elder statesman, Elizabeth warren is in her 70s. looking forward to the crop of 30-50 year olds who will step into leadership roles. AOC has charisma but still too inexperienced for most people right now. but she could grow into it."
"might still be a path for Beto o'rourke but he was a big nothing in the 2020 primaries. buttigeig, maybe.
it ain't kamala, IMHO. and sadly, she'll be the natural next in line for the party."
"and what happens with pence? sold his soul and hitched his wagon to a MAGA world that he never believed in, in hopes of being next in line after trump's second term. but now, GOP sharks smell blood in the water and are already planning their 2024 runs."
Rich quipped: "So AP have called Michigan and now Biden is on 264 - Nevada or Pennsylvania would do it."
Luka crowed: "i told you biden easy" and Leo reminded him that "it ain't over til the fat lady sings."
Version mentioned an unattributed but illuminating quote "As a Democrat supporter this election makes me feel like I’m boxer that won a 12 round championship match. However, I am now suffering from swollen eyes, a concussion, broken ribs, and internal bleeding."and them clapped his hand over his mouth.
Leo said " all of trump's crying today doesn't seem to getting much traction, don't see any republicans sticking up for the lawsuits, recounts and cites of fraud. seems like even they are ready to move on." and version looked at him with love in his eyes, stifled three regretable outbursts, composed his thoughts and finally opined: "That bloke who crashed the press conference in Vegas is gold."
This thread is a tribute