Craner Explains Hayek to Padraig
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craner
Beast of Burden
Quite helpful, in relation to that specific work.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
How does this track, as a brief explanation of how the theoretical basis of neoliberalism began to diverge from the global reality of neoliberalism? @vimothy @craner @padraig (u.s.) ?
"As regards the emergence of neoliberalism beyond the academic sphere of discourse and ideology, and into political reality, it is argued that the 1973 Chilean coup provided an occasion for the germination of neoliberal policy and its ensuing globalization into what we would now call the neoliberal world order. At this point it may be worth reiterating the central purpose of this section, namely the delineation of how the theoretical basis of neoliberalism differs from the political reality of neoliberalism. The gist of the difference is that the theoretical framework of neoliberalism, if taken sincerely and on its own terms, has at its core a return to the central tenet of liberalism, namely that competition should be enabled to decentralize economic power in markets, toward the end of ensuring the efficiency of said market and the economic liberty of those involved. This, as a good faith argument, seems to have become a decreasingly tenable defense of the reality of neoliberalism, as said reality proved gradually over time to be less about the preservation of the economic liberty of the average person, and more about the extended accumulation of wealth and power of elite actors in the global economy and their de facto exemption from social accountability."
I'm basing this point, about the origins of neoliberalism as a political order, on a couple lectures I watched from Damon Silvers (14:42 of this talk: )
"As regards the emergence of neoliberalism beyond the academic sphere of discourse and ideology, and into political reality, it is argued that the 1973 Chilean coup provided an occasion for the germination of neoliberal policy and its ensuing globalization into what we would now call the neoliberal world order. At this point it may be worth reiterating the central purpose of this section, namely the delineation of how the theoretical basis of neoliberalism differs from the political reality of neoliberalism. The gist of the difference is that the theoretical framework of neoliberalism, if taken sincerely and on its own terms, has at its core a return to the central tenet of liberalism, namely that competition should be enabled to decentralize economic power in markets, toward the end of ensuring the efficiency of said market and the economic liberty of those involved. This, as a good faith argument, seems to have become a decreasingly tenable defense of the reality of neoliberalism, as said reality proved gradually over time to be less about the preservation of the economic liberty of the average person, and more about the extended accumulation of wealth and power of elite actors in the global economy and their de facto exemption from social accountability."
I'm basing this point, about the origins of neoliberalism as a political order, on a couple lectures I watched from Damon Silvers (14:42 of this talk: )
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
The current title of the section is:
The Manner in which the Neoliberal Era Seems to have Drifted from a Pure Conception of Neoliberalism, and a Thoroughgoing Denouncement of the Whole Shebang
The Manner in which the Neoliberal Era Seems to have Drifted from a Pure Conception of Neoliberalism, and a Thoroughgoing Denouncement of the Whole Shebang
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
So far, in terms of the synthesis I am working toward, I seem to be aiming at something between social liberalism, communitarianism, market socialism, embedded liberalism, what I call "free market collectivism" and some other similar isms.
wild greens
Well-known member
I'm no expert but i thought the first recognised instance of neoliberalism being used outside of hypothesis was Erhards "miracle" in 1960s Germany
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Oh interesting, not familiar with him, but this bit from his Wiki seems to support that claim:
"A staunch believer in economic liberalism, Erhard joined the Mont Pelerin Society in 1950, and used this influential body of liberal economic and political thinkers to test his ideas for the reorganization of the West German economy. Some of the society's members were members of the Allied High Commission and Erhard was able to make his case directly to them. The Mont Pélerin Society welcomed Erhard because this gave its members a welcome opportunity to have their ideas tested in real life. Alfred Müller-Armack, the secretary of state of Erhard's ministry, helped him guide German economy with theories until the beginning of 1960s.[15]"
wild greens
Well-known member
Couldn't comment on any of that tbh
Growing up in Liverpool the mythology of The Beatles gaining their proficiency in the booming 60s Hamburg is sort of ingrained into the overall story
Until the late 60s amphetamine use is also rampant in Germany (English rock and roll bands playing for hours and hours wired to the max), so if you were to look at the two hand in hand i think you could easily create a good correlation
Growing up in Liverpool the mythology of The Beatles gaining their proficiency in the booming 60s Hamburg is sort of ingrained into the overall story
Until the late 60s amphetamine use is also rampant in Germany (English rock and roll bands playing for hours and hours wired to the max), so if you were to look at the two hand in hand i think you could easily create a good correlation
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I'm digging it. Although, on a purely stylistic note, I'd probably go with 'Denunciation.'
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Yeah I like that more than denouncement
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Haha I was wondering whether I should include these polemical flairs, or whether it would undermine the goal of the "rhizomatic prospectus" at large, namely to present a variety of perspectives and lines of inquiry rather than positing one as an absolute thesis. I suppose some polemic wouldn't undermine this, i.e. I can kill some roots and still leave a plurality of others.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Also, in any case, I think its probably optically advisable to denounce neoliberalism.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I'd like to help, but I'm just having too much fun coming up with titles like A General Counterblast to Popish Devilry, Moral Incontinence in the Female Sexe, & Garlycke.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
You can see why I'm attracted to it! I'm trying to inject it into otherwise "tres drab" discourse.
wild greens
Well-known member
Then stop writing like every other staid academic?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Well it is actually quite natural for me, most of my internal monologuing take this style, especially the tongue-in-cheek verbosity.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
1. This point was advised by a colleague named Cooking Mama 3 on a forum called Dissensus.
wild greens
Well-known member
Perhaps, but it's not that interesting to read