Benny Bunter
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Don't take any notice of woops he's a translation snob.
Can you post the original?
Very short poems you like
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Can you post the original?
Spanishmanic
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I read it in spanish, in the italian original it is:
Ognuno sta solo sul cuor della terra
trafitto da un raggio di sole:
ed è subito sera.
woops
is not like other people
Well I am yeah but I didn't realise it was yours or mean any offence!
Benny Bunter
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I don't understand the poem tbh but it does look very nice in Italian.
@Spanishmanic any recommendations for poetry in Spanish would be appreciated. I only really know Lorca in any sort of depth, but I've been slowly getting into Neruda, I like the stuff I've read from Residencia en la tierra, but he seems to have a really wide range of styles/eras. Also been enjoying what I can read of Rafael Alberti but that's quite hard work for me. Octavio Paz looks worth getting into from the couple of English translations I've read but I haven't looked at any in the original Spanish yet.
@Spanishmanic any recommendations for poetry in Spanish would be appreciated. I only really know Lorca in any sort of depth, but I've been slowly getting into Neruda, I like the stuff I've read from Residencia en la tierra, but he seems to have a really wide range of styles/eras. Also been enjoying what I can read of Rafael Alberti but that's quite hard work for me. Octavio Paz looks worth getting into from the couple of English translations I've read but I haven't looked at any in the original Spanish yet.
sufi
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Everyone stands alone on the heart of the Earth
pierced by a ray of sunshine:
and it's immediately evening.
via https://translate.yandex.com/?lang=...afitto da un raggio di sole: ed è subito sera.
makes perfect sense to me
https://paralleltexts.blog/2017/09/30/ed-e-subito-sera-and-then-it-is-night-by-salvatore-quasimodo/ is not much improvement than yandex or @Spanishmanic
pierced by a ray of sunshine:
and it's immediately evening.
via https://translate.yandex.com/?lang=...afitto da un raggio di sole: ed è subito sera.
makes perfect sense to me
https://paralleltexts.blog/2017/09/30/ed-e-subito-sera-and-then-it-is-night-by-salvatore-quasimodo/ is not much improvement than yandex or @Spanishmanic
Benny Bunter
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That just causes more confusion. It probably translates better into Spanish than English, have you got the Spanish one there to hand @Spanishmanic ?
Of course there are always the possibilities that the poem is supposed to be contradictory and oblique, or that I'm just too stupid to get it.
Of course there are always the possibilities that the poem is supposed to be contradictory and oblique, or that I'm just too stupid to get it.
Benny Bunter
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Whether it's 'on' or 'in' the heart of the earth seems quite significant. (Surely it's 'in', but...) Also, what is pierced by the ray of sunshine, the earth itself or 'everyone'?
Or are these ambiguities also there in the original? Probably they are.
Or are these ambiguities also there in the original? Probably they are.
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"And suddenly it is evening" probably better, or "And suddenly, evening falls"
Benny Bunter
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That last line is relatively easy though, you've got a range of options in English there, it's the first two lines that are tricky
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"Struck by a ray of light"
Benny Bunter
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This does make sense to me actually -
"The poem reflects the existential condition of man: solitude, the pain of living, the brevity of life itself."
Looks like it was me just being thick then. 🤪
Benny Bunter
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Just got pleasantly confused by a badly translated Italian haiku.
Benny Bunter
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Lol, was about to contest this, picked up my Lorca book and the first line I read was:
"Now he rides a flaming cross
Along the road of death"
I like it though, stirs the blood
Benny Bunter
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They're very good at writing about death I reckon
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"The swan swallows the heron
The moon rebirths the sun
Every child is my mother too
Every single one"
Melvin Bigote
The moon rebirths the sun
Every child is my mother too
Every single one"
Melvin Bigote
Benny Bunter
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..I didn't come to see the sky
I'm here to see the clouded blood,
the blood that sweeps machines over waterfalls
and the soul towards the cobra's tongue.
Every day in New York, they slaughter
four million ducks,
five million hogs,
two thousand pigeons to accommodate
the tastes of the dying,
one million cows,
one million lambs,
and two million roosters
that smash the sky to pieces.
It's better to sob while honing the blade...
I'm here to see the clouded blood,
the blood that sweeps machines over waterfalls
and the soul towards the cobra's tongue.
Every day in New York, they slaughter
four million ducks,
five million hogs,
two thousand pigeons to accommodate
the tastes of the dying,
one million cows,
one million lambs,
and two million roosters
that smash the sky to pieces.
It's better to sob while honing the blade...
Benny Bunter
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Sorry not a short poem, an extract from Lorca talking about death in an overwrought and hysterical way
Benny Bunter
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The wounded cow lay down,
trees and streams climbing over its horns.
Its muzzle bled in the sky...
Tell the roots
and that child sharpening his knife
now they can eat the cow.
Above them, lights
and jugulars turn pale.
Four cloven hoofs tremble in the air...
trees and streams climbing over its horns.
Its muzzle bled in the sky...
Tell the roots
and that child sharpening his knife
now they can eat the cow.
Above them, lights
and jugulars turn pale.
Four cloven hoofs tremble in the air...