The internet's impact on music megathread

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its a boring question everyone knows why

 

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obviously your going to like disco when theres not a million shitty disco songs blasting you all day and you can look back in retrospect and pick the good ones

 

[sus]

its a boring question everyone knows why

OK so now extrapolate to Marvel

 

[version]

Now I am fantasizing about living outside the discourse all the time.

Just don't go on Twitter or read commentary.

 

[sus]

Just don't go on Twitter or read commentary.

Well I also can't talk to people, discourse is carried by hosts to be transmitted/spread

 

[version]

You could talk to people who don't put stock in "the Discourse".

 

[sus]

The wasteland was mass cultural event.

OK not to get distracted here but what is the source because I haven't heard this, and the printing numbers on those first editions are like, triple digits

Also it's the Waste SPACE Land you heathen philistine

 

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but often those people are boring or dont share your interests

 

[sus]

You could talk to people who don't put stock in "the Discourse".

No they are also enmeshed, where do you think they get the idea to watch Marvel movies and listen to Tay Tay? it's interminable, it's just shallower rungs of hell, the structure is the same the only difference is how deep you go

 

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OK not to get distracted here but what is the source because I haven't heard this, and the printing numbers on those first editions are like, triple digits

Also it's the Waste SPACE Land you heathen philistine

I took a ts eliot class in college, maybe they lied to me, but we watched a document that talked about all of london, even the commoners, getting wrapped up in it. let me try and find it

 

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No they are also enmeshed, where do you think they get the idea to watch Marvel movies and listen to Tay Tay? it's interminable, it's just shallower rungs of hell, the structure is the same the only difference is how deep you go

Print this out and pin it above your desk.

 

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No they are also enmeshed, where do you think they get the idea to watch Marvel movies and listen to Tay Tay? it's interminable, it's just shallower rungs of hell, the structure is the same the only difference is how deep you go

Someone watching a Marvel movie isn't as exhausting as someone fully invested in Twitter 'takes'.

 

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I got sucked into reading celebrity gossip a lot recently and could feel it melting my brain. It's like a juicier, shallower parapolitics with a much more bountiful supply and the people seriously invested in it are completely unhinged. They've managed to combine the worst of the mainstream with the worst of the fringes and have cultivated a conspiracy theorist mindset around stuff like which celebrity is dating which and why someone got kicked off a film, plus they're all in on the God awful neoliberal therapy speak.

 

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OK not to get distracted here but what is the source because I haven't heard this, and the printing numbers on those first editions are like, triple digits

Also it's the Waste SPACE Land you heathen philistine

I cant find it, oddly hard thing to google. but TS eliot wrote CATS, I dont need to defend his popularity

 

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The original subject of the thread is a real 'medium is the message' question.

Is music objectively worse or has the internet, i.e. the delivery system, just altered or damaged the way we consume it?

 

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I dont think' is music worse' the question though. I think saying its worse is the silly sentiment suspended is railing against

 

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It seems worse to me tbh. The same goes for TV, film and writing.

 

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I guess trying to frame the question as any sort of value assessment is silly.

I definitely think pop and rock music in the mainstream are worse but I think thats as much to do with those genres in the narrow framing that allows them to exist as 'popular' have run out of ideas which I dont think can be attributed primarily to the internet.

 

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It seems worse to me tbh. The same goes for TV, film and writing.

it is worse, everyone agrees even suspended he just wants to be a little butt about it

 

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I guess trying to frame the question as any sort of value assessment is silly.

I go back and forth on this. It does seem impossible but not at least trying to seems to lead to the current point where you've got adults who live off children's media having a tantrum when someone like Scorsese says that that's what it is.