The Republican War on Transgender People, Drag Queens, and Queerness in General

[malelesbian]

@malelesbian you're mega-conventional, repeating yourself, coming up with some really bizarre factual claims and redefining terms idiosyncratically to suit your own purposes now so we'll continue this in a couple of years.

YOU TAPPED OUT! YOU TAPPED OUT!

 

[mixed_biscuits]

YOU TAPPED OUT! YOU TAPPED OUT!

you tapped out by posting while unconscious

 

[mixed_biscuits]

The fact that I listen to actual society's regulations for what behaviors count as womanly or manly is far from conservative!

What regulations are these? lol

 

[malelesbian]

What regulations are these? lol

For example, it's manly to work by your self and its womanly to work within a community. It's manly to emphasize logic, quantity and science, it's womanly to focus on emotions, quality and aesthetics. It's really not hard to know what these conventions are lol.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

For example, it's manly to work by your self and its womanly to work within a community. It's manly to emphasize logic, quantity and science, it's womanly to focus on emotions, quality and aesthetics. It's really not hard to know what these conventions are lol.

Where are these regulations??

Are you saying we're breaking the law by having an Art, Literature and Film subforum?

 

[mixed_biscuits]

@malelesbian I get the impression you enjoy the idea of ultra-conservative societies in which behaviour is so stereotyped that it's violently enforced. Your vaguely progressive head-nods are token acts of disavowal that permit you to indulge your true Talibanesque fantasies. The illicit transgressive thrill you get from your amalgamated persona depends on the idea of a firm reactionary status quo for it to flout - the firmer the better, clearly!

 

[malelesbian]

Where are they? They don't need to be anywhere. I don't understand the question. I'm just saying traditional gender conventions fail to help us understand gender non-conformity. But of course people can be non-conformists and defy gender conventions.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Where are they? They don't need to be anywhere.

Sounds highly evidenced

 

[malelesbian]

@malelesbian I get the impression you enjoy the idea of ultra-conservative societies in which behaviour is so stereotyped that it's violently enforced. Your vaguely progressive head-nods are token acts of disavowal that permit you to indulge your true Talibanesque fantasies. The illicit transgressive thrill you get from your amalgamated persona depends on the idea of a firm reactionary status quo for it to flout - the firmer the better, clearly!

This is just goofy. Of course I would appreciate a society that treated gender non-conformity in a less authoritarian, repressive way. That would benefit me because I'm a gender non-conformist. I get the impression that you don't really have a political agenda here, you just want to annoy people using fallacious reasoning.

 

[malelesbian]

Sounds highly evidenced

You don't believe that men are expected to perform specific actions that women are forbidden to do? You played with Barbies as child? Are you going to wear a dress?

 

[mixed_biscuits]

This is just goofy. Of course I would appreciate a society that treated gender non-conformity in a less authoritarian, repressive way. That would benefit me because I'm a gender non-conformist. I get the impression that you don't really have a political agenda here, you just want to annoy people using fallacious reasoning.

Being a gender non-conformist only has meaning against a background of conformity...a background which you purposefully paint in strident colours so as to increase the frisson of non-conforming

 

[mixed_biscuits]

You don't believe that men are expected to perform specific actions that women are forbidden to do? You played with Barbies as child? Are you going to wear a dress?

There are laws against these, are there?

 

[WashYourHands]

I’m going to voice to text all your interactions and upload the entire thing to YT in Stephen Hawking voice generator

 

[mixed_biscuits]

I’m going to voice to text all your interactions and upload the entire thing to YT in Stephen Hawking voice generator

NHS on strike again?

 

[malelesbian]

There are laws against these, are there?

I never said anything about laws, nor even rules. I talked about conventions, regulations, norms.

 

[malelesbian]

I’m going to voice to text all your interactions and upload the entire thing to YT in Stephen Hawking voice generator

Please do LMAO

Being a gender non-conformist only has meaning against a background of conformity...a background which you purposefully paint in strident colours so as to increase the frisson of non-conforming

Couldn't this be said of all non-conformists? Also why should I care about this?

 

[mixed_biscuits]

I never said anything about laws, nor even rules. I talked about conventions, regulations, norms.

Regulations!

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Couldn't this be said of all non-conformists? Also why should I care about this?

Society should care because self-regarding non-conformists ultimately buttress the conservative majority - the more squares there are, the more daring non-conformists get to feel.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

The contention that gender norms are homogenous across cultures is spectacularly ignorant:

 

[malelesbian]

The contention that gender norms are homogenous across cultures is spectacularly ignorant:

Good thing I didn't claim that then! I never denied inter-cultural differences in gender norms. I just said that I focus mainly on American culture.

Regulations!

Regulations aren't rules.

Society should care because self-regarding non-conformists ultimately buttress the conservative majority - the more squares there are, the more daring non-conformists get to feel.

Yes but non-conformity isn't about feeling a special way, it's about defying the majority because people should be allowed multiple alternative routes to success. I don't care about normal trads, I just want them to let me live my life so we can coexist.