mvuent

Void Dweller
just remembered this urgent line of inquiry yesterday while i was waiting at the dmv. basically, when visiting the uk a couple months ago, i was quite struck by how about 30% of the people i saw in central london all followed the exact same dress code, consisting simply of a blue dress shirt tucked into dress pants. any place will have its own subcultures, but this was outright uncanny, like seeing a video game character class irl. after continued observation i started to notice subtle differences within this homogeneous population, and began speculating about sub-classes. (keep in mind i was only in central london for about three hours, so these may not be entirely accurate—i may be over-relying on specific impressions, etc.) here they are, in reverse order of inferred rank:

3. optimized men - defined by their rigorous adherence to the classical alpha male traits: high salaries; crew cuts; inflated arms and shoulders; erect posture, w/ elbows held at maximal resting distance from torso to convey simian dominance; refusal to walk anywhere but the exact center of the sidewalk (for the same reason). what i like about these guys is their straightforwardness. unencumbered by wishy-washy hippie notions of "being yourself" they aim for standardized perfection. they want to be the stock photo in an article about "10 things every man should do by 25".

2. whiz kids - defined by their flouting of the most base dimension of alpha-maleness, that of physical dominance. less muscular and more soft/sedentary looking than the optimized men. and with puffier, more elaborate hairstyles. there tends to be a sort of smugness in their countenances that's absent in the previous group. they got here by being smart rather than tryhards. their strategy for conveying social status (to, say, women at networking events) seems to be evoking a sort of aristocratic distance from physical labor. toiling away lifting heavy things is boring when you could be making as much money as they do.

1. patricians - older than the other two groups, all 6'2"-7'0" tall, with cruel victorian facial features. angrily talking to someone on their phone while the masses instinctively scurry out of their way down below. these types bring to mind craner's words that "the lower middle classes . . . are my favorite type of bacillus"—although they distain ordinary people too much to ever consciously think about them, just as the exploitative noblemen they're descended from did.

any further observations to add?
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
just remembered this urgent line of inquiry yesterday while i was waiting at the dmv. basically, when visiting the uk a couple months ago, i was quite struck by how about 30% of the people i saw in central london all followed the exact same dress code, consisting simply of a blue dress shirt tucked into dress pants. any place will have its own subcultures, but this was outright uncanny, like seeing a video game character class irl. after continued observation i started to notice subtle differences within this homogeneous population, and began speculating about sub-classes. (keep in mind i was only in central london for about three hours, so these may not be entirely accurate—i may be over-relying on specific impressions, etc.) here they are, in reverse order of inferred rank:

3. optimized men - defined by their rigorous adherence to the classical alpha male traits: high salaries; crew cuts; inflated arms and shoulders; erect posture, w/ elbows held at maximal resting distance from torso to convey simian dominance; refusal to walk anywhere but the exact center of the sidewalk (for the same reason). what i like about these guys is their straightforwardness. unencumbered by wishy-washy hippie notions of "being yourself" they aim for standardized perfection. they want to be the stock photo in an article about "10 things every man should do by 25".

2. whiz kids - defined by their flouting of the most base dimension of alpha-maleness, that of physical dominance. less muscular and more soft/sedentary looking than the optimized men. and with puffier, more elaborate hairstyles. there tends to be a sort of smugness in their countenances that's absent in the previous group. they got here by being smart rather than tryhards. their strategy for conveying social status (to, say, women at networking events) seems to be evoking a sort of aristocratic distance from physical labor. toiling away lifting heavy things is boring when you could be making as much money as they do.

1. patricians - older than the other two groups, all 6'2"-7'0" tall, with cruel victorian facial features. angrily talking to someone on their phone while the masses instinctively scurry out of their way down below. these types bring to mind craner's words that "the lower middle classes . . . are my favorite type of bacillus"—although they distain ordinary people too much to ever consciously think about them, just as the exploitative noblemen they're descended from did.

any further observations to add?

This is crying out to be made into a meme. The Virgin Whiz Kid vs the Optimized Chad vs the Patrician Thad.
 

martin

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From my experience, the finance bros/salesman hordes I've worked with favoured salmony pink shirts with white collars and cuffs, under light pinstripe jackets, with brown pointy shoes. Shiny pink faces too. They do a good job of coming across as alpha dogs until the boss waddles in, whereupon they all start arselicking. "Result for Fulham on Saturday!" they boom, referencing the boss's football team. I kind of miss drinking with those types, though, they were really unpredictable, a right human zoo, after 4-5 pints.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
From my experience, the finance bros/salesman hordes I've worked with favoured salmony pink shirts with white collars and cuffs, under light pinstripe jackets, with brown pointy shoes. Shiny pink faces too. They do a good job of coming across as alpha dogs until the boss waddles in, whereupon they all start arselicking. "Result for Fulham on Saturday!" they boom, referencing the boss's football team. I kind of miss drinking with those types, though, they were really unpredictable, a right human zoo, after 4-5 pints.
Stories please
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
I've always found it striking how rarely I'd encounter City people. You think you'd run into them all the time but I guess they mostly live out of town. Some weird economic segregation at work.
 

wektor

Well-known member
ITT I will share the latest thing on the London meme scene (so it would seem). Directly refers to the format of the Brooklynite incellectuals page offshoots which has been the thing for long enough to stop being a thing completely (ie. 16 year olds started making incellectuals-XYZ pages about their schools and neighbourhoods, making it an equivalent of "spotted" pages almost).
Curious thing is it very successfully flips not only that, but also the lingo used by London-based incellectuals ig pages (especially southern ones I am familiar with, or, incellectuals_ealing for example), which have stratified over time into its own, with its own complete lingo, etc.
BUT, in this case, what we get is self-conscious humour of the disenchanted (perhaps female?) professionals in their late 20s who have appropriated the London internet kid slang (they are young enough after all), but are also old enough to start spotting out the tattooed dickies dads pushing their 4k gbp prams around broadway market while recording voice memos every sunday afternoon while their 5k gbp dog is shitting in the middle of the sidewalk.
 

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
"I’ve done a few dealings in the city, met a number of stockbrokers and I can tell you in all my life that I’ve never seen such dishonesty and greed.
It’s like a big betting shop - a bookies, a casino - where they’re all screwing each other and the rest of the world."


 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I was following socks house meeting for a while but I got kind of sick of it and of course it's written by an "insider" to that world so although it is ridiculing some of the worst people in the world/London it's probably also written by one of them
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Oh and also I'm too old to be tutting and rolling my eyes at the yoof, even the hipster fashion student yoof
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Taxonomys are interesting as a subject, perhaps we've already done this discussion

But when you see one that's aimed at what's roughly speaking your "Type" it really stings
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I'll never be able to find it now, perhaps version can

It was when there was a big list of characteristics of a certain sort of man the author/s had been dating doing the rounds on twitter
 

luka

Well-known member
its great how when ian was in london i'd be like, uh, so, noticed anything ian, any clever observations to make and he'd just kind of stare at me panic striken like a fish out of water so anyone would think he hadnt a braincell in his whole head but all along there was some activity, at a deep, deep current, pre-language,waiting to crystallise
 
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