Boomer Nostalgia

Mr. Tea

Mr. Tea

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craner said:
One of the key features of the middle class British segment of Gen X is that we are inheriting the obscene profits that our parents made from the property boom, so our feckless cynicism is now being warped by a toxic sense of material entitlement. We are going to be so hated. Our kids will be euthanising us the first chance they get. "Sorry, Gramps, it's you or Net Zero."
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Speak for yourself. Some of us are cursed with obnoxiously healthy, fit parents who are probably going to make it to 110.
 
WashYourHands

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Inheritance levels are driving specific demographics towards home ownership and others to a lifetime of rent

Assuming social care costs don’t wipe out whatever actually remains in the proverbial kitty
 
WashYourHands

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
People who were kids and teens during WWII are as big a miss because they remember actual war, not just endless rationing and most of this pre-war generation has passed already
 
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In some respects, I can't blame them. Seems people are paying more and more tax for fewer and fewer returns. If your choice is between the state and your kids then you're obviously going to choose your kids. Lost count of the number of times I've seen someone proclaim the social contract to be "in tatters".
 
craner

craner

Beast of Burden
version said:
In some respects, I can't blame them. Seems people are paying more and more tax for fewer and fewer returns. If your choice is between the state and your kids then you're obviously going to choose your kids. Lost count of the number of times I've seen someone proclaim the social contract to be "in tatters".
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We’re not judging, Versh. We’re just mapping the territory.
 
shakahislop

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version said:
Anyone got some insight into Boomers outside of Britain and America? What are that generation like in other areas of the world?
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obviously this is not remotely a thing in afghanistan or bangladesh. but that is what you would expect and it's probably not where you're asking about. generational differences are a thing in both places but they run along different lines.

i've got a strong impression that talking in terms of generations in this way is as US to UK export. i can remember when people in the UK started talking about it in the 2010s. and now it has very much solidified. i remember reading douglas coupland in about idk 2004 and having absolutely no idea what he was on about talking about 'generation x'. the whole thing seems like a misleading flattening to me. and the words are a bit ugly as well. 'zoomers'.
 
shakahislop

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in bangladesh i had the impression that among the more elite in dhaka the generational difference was to do with language (speaking bangla or speaking english) and with islam. there was also a lot of political frustration about two decrepit old families and their increasingly elderly figureheads, sheikh hasina and khaleda zia, who gained power after independence in the 70s maintaining their stranglehold, swapping power back and forth. in afghanistan the complaints from the youth were about the old warlords holding onto power as they got older and older.
 
mixed_biscuits

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shakahislop said:
obviously this is not remotely a thing in afghanistan or bangladesh. but that is what you would expect and it's probably not where you're asking about. generational differences are a thing in both places but they run along different lines.

i've got a strong impression that talking in terms of generations in this way is as US to UK export. i can remember when people in the UK started talking about it in the 2010s. and now it has very much solidified. i remember reading douglas coupland in about idk 2004 and having absolutely no idea what he was on about talking about 'generation x'. the whole thing seems like a misleading flattening to me. and the words are a bit ugly as well. 'zoomers'.
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Agree. We need a higher resolution: one generation per year but per academic year because that directed socialisation. My academic year seemed to be significantly more sociable than the years either side; maybe there's some sort of fashion-like mechanism going on.

I'm generation Top Trump.
 
shakahislop

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mixed_biscuits said:
Agree. We need a higher resolution: one generation per year but per academic year because that directed socialisation. My academic year seemed to be significantly more sociable than the years either side; maybe there's some sort of fashion-like mechanism going on.

I'm generation Top Trump.
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like a lot of internet-based words the generational words crumble a bit on contact with reality
 
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craner said:
I was talking about the Boomer's own story about themselves. The Big Chill is the perfect example and nostalgia is only one part of it (misleading thread title, sorry). There is nostalgia and elegy, but also self-defence, self-recrimination, celebration, critique, etc. Each decade is part of the narrative arc: idealism, disillusion, making it, getting power, misusing power, cashing in, making an exit.
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In this Berardi book, he designates 1977 "the year of passage beyond modernity," and cites Chaplin dying, Jobs and Woz trademarking Apple, Lyotard writing 'The Postmodern Condition', the Autonomia movement (of course), and a few other things.

There's enough there to make an argument, but you can also see how arbitrary the whole thing is. He zeroes in on Bergman releasing The Serpent's Egg because he thinks it's a good illustration of the how the totalitarian mindset's incubated. Also, unless it wasn't published for a couple of years after being written, he gets the Lyotard wrong as it appeared in '79.
 
craner

craner

Beast of Burden
version said:
In this Berardi book, he designates 1977 "the year of passage beyond modernity," and cites Chaplin dying, Jobs and Woz trademarking Apple, Lyotard writing 'The Postmodern Condition', the Autonomia movement (of course), and a few other things.

There's enough there to make an argument, but you can also see how arbitrary the whole thing is. He zeroes in on Bergman releasing The Serpent's Egg because he thinks it's a good illustration of the how the totalitarian mindset's incubated. Also, unless it wasn't published for a couple of years after being written, he gets the Lyotard wrong as it appeared in '79.
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Arbitary, but also suggestive.

As with generational categories there is both nothing there and enough there to generate insights/ideas.
 
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