slackk
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ruff sqwad is tonight-
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mos dan
fact music
woah there, i never said skepta's album launch was on saturday!! i just said it was after (as in 'following in due course') ruff sqwad tonight. bloody chinese whispers in here lol.
skepta's album launch is october 19
http://www.cargo-london.com/event.php?id=987
the rinse night is november 1
http://www.dubplate.net/Search.aspx?search_term=tickets&narrow=
let's hope cargo's system is prepped for some grime! hadn't clocked that all three nights were at the same venue til now..
skepta's album launch is october 19
http://www.cargo-london.com/event.php?id=987
the rinse night is november 1
http://www.dubplate.net/Search.aspx?search_term=tickets&narrow=
let's hope cargo's system is prepped for some grime! hadn't clocked that all three nights were at the same venue til now..
Personally I think that this is interesting considering Plastician has left grime to play incredibly boring and linear dubstep.
I saw him at DMZ and he was absolutely shit.
Logan Sama
BestThereIsAtWhatIDo
8 bar loops made Grime what it is in the first place. I couldn't give a fuck about edits or carefully crafted build ups and break downs.
I just want it to do a job on a set.
I just want it to do a job on a set.
I completely agree with this, but I don't think you can knock guys for trying something new.
rockypoppy2
wtf?
what beat is this? completely mental!!!!
sounds like a cross between rapid, joker, and the track footsie built for dizzee's new album (that last one)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kus2zv
griminal holds it down very well too
i think the thing to keep in mind with grime beats is that they arent made as much as pieces of music to exist in isolation - they are part of a mix, they are meant to be vocalled, they are meant to hype the crowd, then move on. personally i think beat making in the capital still smacks anywhere - the bristol stuff is great but its not raw enough, i think it presents an excellent opportunity for some sort of dubstep/grime fusion (joker etc) - but theres plenty of producers in london still killing it man. rapid is consistantly bringing stuff out, and the younger generation of producers have done great stuff, bless beats, maniac, dva etc... - i think its cos there arent as many grime dj shows anymore that we dont hear all the new shit, only spyro,vectra,spooky,furious,tubby (when hes playing his own beats) holding it down for the instrumental camp - most other sets (of the precious few) are mc led or vocals led
sounds like a cross between rapid, joker, and the track footsie built for dizzee's new album (that last one)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kus2zv
griminal holds it down very well too
i think the thing to keep in mind with grime beats is that they arent made as much as pieces of music to exist in isolation - they are part of a mix, they are meant to be vocalled, they are meant to hype the crowd, then move on. personally i think beat making in the capital still smacks anywhere - the bristol stuff is great but its not raw enough, i think it presents an excellent opportunity for some sort of dubstep/grime fusion (joker etc) - but theres plenty of producers in london still killing it man. rapid is consistantly bringing stuff out, and the younger generation of producers have done great stuff, bless beats, maniac, dva etc... - i think its cos there arent as many grime dj shows anymore that we dont hear all the new shit, only spyro,vectra,spooky,furious,tubby (when hes playing his own beats) holding it down for the instrumental camp - most other sets (of the precious few) are mc led or vocals led
spooky, rapid, these guys are still doing really good things (although i think rapid has finally rinsed the underground template at this point) when i do actually hear their stuff - its just very hard to get hold of. hearing someones tracks on myspace as the only way to hear it isnt cutting it for me.
viktorvaughn
Well-known member
There has been a bit of a movement on RWD to write a load of Wikipedia pages, loads of people seem to have been getting involved which I think is brilliant as it's the biggest pool of Grime knowledge in the world surely.
Wouldn't hold out for list of releases with cat numbers and all, discogs is still the best bet for that, incomplete as it is.
slackk
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Yeah, I've been trying to help with this when work allows; there's a lot of empty pages, though; it's a big task. I'm sure there are some dissensus people with a lot of knowledge that could help as well..
I think you're on the mark with the second point. The best thing grime artists can do is start selling their music as high quality mp3s (perhaps through UK Record Shop). All grime DJs are using CDJs anyway and grime is not like dubstep - its growth is spread digitally much faster than it is spread on vinyl.
mos dan
fact music
my pc died recently and i lost a LOT of music (let's not even talk about it eh? sigh), anyway i lost a lot of mixes so i'm trying to slowly restore my collection to what it once was... starting with logan's adamantium mixes page.. you know the one i mean, the one with various mixes old and new on.. anyone? logan?
I don't rate Plastician that much
so...yeah lol
I knew you would come with this lol so yes yes yes but there comes a time when...that's not good enough man. a lot of the scenes beats are a bit s*** frankly except for a few imo. also 2 8 bar switches for 4 minutes on a vinyl for £6 - 7 is no fun too. as a (half aborted) former DJ I can testify to that
especially when it happens to be better
says who? what raves lol? if you mean its supposed to be strictly like this then that's musical stagnation/lack of ideas. the current lack of ideas has resulted in this pseudo rap/still 8 bar looping (which is no bad thing sometimes)
fair enough. I just hear these guys' stuff and it doesn't match up to this new s*** but that's just me. if anything shouldn't the core of the activity be leading the progression? obv this isn't a hard and fast rule. lol at not raw enough though
I keep saying this every 15 pages or so lol but it falls on deaf fingers. I don't think there's any excuse for not doing paid d/l's even if they don't sell in maaaad amounts
anyway how was Ruff Sqwad? and I was told in an email this morning that Terror Danjah has a launch party on the 5th Nov at Bar Rumba for Hardrive vol 1. my boy told me but considering he was wrong about Skepta's launch party...
so...yeah lol
I knew you would come with this lol so yes yes yes but there comes a time when...that's not good enough man. a lot of the scenes beats are a bit s*** frankly except for a few imo. also 2 8 bar switches for 4 minutes on a vinyl for £6 - 7 is no fun too. as a (half aborted) former DJ I can testify to that
especially when it happens to be better
says who? what raves lol? if you mean its supposed to be strictly like this then that's musical stagnation/lack of ideas. the current lack of ideas has resulted in this pseudo rap/still 8 bar looping (which is no bad thing sometimes)
fair enough. I just hear these guys' stuff and it doesn't match up to this new s*** but that's just me. if anything shouldn't the core of the activity be leading the progression? obv this isn't a hard and fast rule. lol at not raw enough though
I keep saying this every 15 pages or so lol but it falls on deaf fingers. I don't think there's any excuse for not doing paid d/l's even if they don't sell in maaaad amounts
anyway how was Ruff Sqwad? and I was told in an email this morning that Terror Danjah has a launch party on the 5th Nov at Bar Rumba for Hardrive vol 1. my boy told me but considering he was wrong about Skepta's launch party...
LOL yeah - the famous north london middle class 'rude boy' accent
riko dan bashment/grime PA at The Pool round the corner from Cargo the same night as the skepta launch party too, free entry and riko's on before skepta & co take to the stage...