rubberdingyrapids
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elijah,you should blog more...
Tbh I have no idea what Logan plays, haven't listened to him in ages.
If you listen to Spooky's shows on Deja (which is probably the biggest grime show now anyway) or indeed someone like Score5 on Rinse, I don't see how you can say that there isn't anyone pushing the proper grime sound. Those shows are consistently great I think.
Don't see why you'd discount Butterz?
Anyway my point is that there is a very strong instrumental sound now in grime. MC wise, less so, but it's been like that for years.
Listen to this show-
http://www.djscore5.com/radio-sets/rinse-fm-20th-june-up-coming-producer-showcase/
Really good. And what, 3/4 of it is new producers?
3/4 of those producers are new and it's great.
Lyrically also, beyond just a lack of characters, would it be treading too much in boring white-boy UK Hip Hop territory to ask for Grime to come up with some interesting responses to the social-economic-political clusterfuck of a situation in this country? Is it possible to imagine Grime tackling 'bigger issues' in a way that enhances rather than stifles the music?
Backpacker grime you know. I'll pass.
Nah see you are looking at things in absolutes.
Having a conscious tone in your music is harmless.
i think harmlessness is part of the problem. (though id prob worry a bit about someone who liked ONLY gangsta/hardcore rap and nothing else in the genre). granted, in grime, 'conscious' (or idk, 'reflective') content can sometimes mean a song like dizzee's 'imagine', which is pretty terrible, but it can also mean a song like 'chosen one' or 'sittin' here'. ok im struggling to think of more good examples of this. i have 2 'conscious ragga' comps from the 90s. not sure if i could fill up 2 for grime.