padrags greatest hits (i was bored)
So let's just stagnate as posturing adolescent laddies hereabouts for a momento and soundshite-summarise Chomsky contra Zizek for deindividualism-bollox riposte:
Beavis Chomsky: Democracy is so cool, dude, I can't get enough of it. Gimme MORE! And them others too!
Butthead Zizek: Huh? Then wha'bout capitalclysm, dude, doncha like to puke on it?
Beavis Chomsky: Wha? I said democracy Butthead. Your iPod's got way too many batteries, dude. Take it off and I'll puke on it, made in all them sweaty haunts in Chinatown.
Butthead Zizek: Beer and Pizza, Beavis. Beer and Pizza.
Beavis Chomsky: Now I really wanna puke - gimme that iPod!
Butthead Zizek: No, dude! Beer and Pizza. Democracy and capitalclysm. Ya can't have one widout the udder, and the more beer ya sozzle the more pizza ya donk. Geddit, dude?
Beavis Chomsky: Uh, how 'bout Beer and iPod, then, Butthead?
Butthead Zizek: Only if ya drink the beer and puke up the iPod, dude.
Beavis Chomsky: But I believe in American Beer, Butthead!
Butthead Zizek: Last refuge of the puker, dude ...
A forum nearly dead these past two years, and not the only one either ... but you're welcome to attempt a regeneration ...
Has your precious vanity been wounded, invaded?
everything in your post is just hilariously nice and blandy.
the insistently complacent, dull reality principle ("accept the way things are" and "nobody can do nothing bout' anthing" and "anyone who does is arrogant and belligerent") posts/threads hearabouts
Forrest Gump couldn't do better. And you pretend to imagine this will be spent on "spreading democracy" as opposed to its true function, escalating special forces terrorist operations aimed at stoking visceral sectarian conflict, all as a prelude to invasion?
Keep scoffing those freedom fries, joker ..
It's what's called 'Reason' ... [do you even have a clue what's being discussed here, cynical smartalec?].
.To those who might possibly have a dodgy interest in these matters, Mr Craner is a fully paid-up member of Labour Friends of Iraq, (Motto: "Building Support For The New Iraq"), established in 2004.
Interesting the company you choose to keep: a neo-con fascist itching via his racist propaganda to criminally invade Iran ...
But you're welcome to be pals with a psycho-creep ...
In your salivating, Pavlovian rush to engage in personal abuse, you not only bleakly demonstrate your inability to comprehend the points made, but you also - fatally - confirm them. And this is all you're doing ...
salivating psycho-creep
fascist racist itching salivating puke FUCK FUCKER FUCK
And this is all you're doing ...
you have yet to begin engaging in any actual discussion.
FUCKFUCKshite
Originally Posted by bassnation
was talking about you, not to you.
Then take your pathetic ravings off this forum and into private E-mail [was talking to you, not about you].
pathetic raving
I'm not here in search of "sympathy", some fantasy of Dissensus involvement as some kind of pomo New Agist ego-boosting "therapy," and your recourse here to an adolescent-existentialist use of cinematic terminology is telling ..
Quote:
Originally Posted by bassnation
like i said, i don't have the time to read twenty pages of densely typed adolescent gibberish.
But you've plenty of time to write it ...
and as will soon become apparent, many of the reflexively impotent posters here prefer to aggressively defend such impotence, dismissing those who confront it, or take a serious stance on any political issue, as "arrogant", as "belligerent" or as a "pseudo-troll". It is, of course, an impotent acting-out on their part, a false activity, of which the most succinct definition might be as follows: when I am frenetically active not to achieve something, but in order to prevent something from happening [like, uh, a proper debate etc]. Like obsessional neurotics, Dissensus' chronic fatalists are frantically active precisely in order to insure that something - that which really matters, the smooth functioning of the market, and their impotence in the face of - will not be disturbed ... Of course, its not just happening here.
densely typed adolescent gibberish.
I've been "presenting" arguments and evidence relating to this issue for the past few months on this forum, but passive-aggressive naifs like yourself have zero interest in same, just in vacuous, nihilist-schoolboy quips like the above ...
passive-aggressive naifs obsessional neurotics reflexively impotent posters chronic fatalists irrational, hysterical insistently complacent, dull
Not that you'll be protesting tomorrow or anything, just watching the fucking football on teevee [or "watching the shit", as
Slavoj Zizek concluded last night in his analysis of the obscene underside of The Screen in the CH4 doc The Pervert's Guide To Cinema].
ZizekZizekZizekZizek
You'd "prefer" if others conducted all the research for you? All too tired and emotional to doodle on google? Better, its yet another conspiracy theory and ya want to call my bluff?
You're not really interested in an answer, are you? Only in the absense of such ...
You've woken up from reality ... [and gone back to (fantasy) sleep again].
So keep consuming those smarties rather than knowing why ...
puker
It's your assumptions that are the difficulty here: your "simple" [assumption: neutral, harmless, fair and reasonable] request for links/references/information was anything but simple - it was patronising and, yes, lazy. And its your "opinions on the current situation" which are disturbing and, yes, destructive.
yes and yes
Is someone paying you to write this patronising, self-congratulatory shite?
.
When we have the supreme pleasure of witnessing your arguments and your evidence, as opposed to the above reactionary economy of school-yard bile, then we might entertain you some more appropriate syllables.
Something which you then proceed to do
salivating psycho-creep
fascist racist itching salivating puke
irrational, hysterical.inane
FUCK FUCKER FUCK
Oh roight, you're here confusing a satirical response to inane rhetoric and dogma with rhetoric and dogma, John.
Oh roiight. Maybe instead Creationism, Social Darwinism, and Flat Earth Theory are obviously preferable, being so easy to read and understand, and saying everything that's never been said more clearly.
Something which you then proceed to do, rejecting without the benefit of any real analysis Freud's Oedipus theory as simply "pathetic on many levels", resorting to bland acognitive behaviourist rhetoric ("observation, communication and expectation") to justify such a dismissal.
Oh roight
Your destructive nihilism here ("but so what?") is unfortunate, implying an irrational, hysterical "so what if our approach makes matters worse, at least we are doing something concrete, not just sitting around."
Well, your hopes have been dashed, in this instance. I don't intend responding to a post [borderpolice's] that has already condemned itself, but perhaps you need here yet another "easy" introduction to a different topic: elementary rhetoric and sophistry, and those who utilise it in the guise of insight ...YOU SMUG, RACIST LITTLE SHITE!!!
shiteshiteshiteshitepukepukepukepuke [ordinary discourse]
But to recap, given the level of amnesia and ideological displacement on display in this thread:
Before you've even started?
You're very easily frustrated, John [by ordinary discourse].
FUCKFUCKERFUCKSHITE
Oh roight
Finally, I don't propose, as you have done above, to engage in the otherwise ineluctable spectacle of disavowed personal abuse here,
viz., should we simply, axiomatically ask you to prove that "you're not a vacuous twat with a chip on your shoulder"?
That shouldn't prove too challenging, given that
As this is my one-hundredth post at this charming forum, I'm honoured, after some twenty years of posting at assorted forums, newsgroups, bulletin boards, websites [back then it was, in Europe, called "Eurocom"], to pay witness to the above poster manically thrusting himself forth into this thread with his oh-so-considered accusations of "quasi-trolling". This is indeed singular; however, I do recall a schizoid basket-case poster some years ago accusing everyone at the forum where he posted as a bunch of "vampiric trolls." So you're in good company, Mr Magnum "Blondie" Force.
"Where are the ideas?" They're busily being dumbed-down, rubbished, ignored and ridiculed by this forum's resident anti-intellectual, narcissistic clowns, viz
Fluke-worm: "you're looking for 'productive thought' on dissensus?!! the mind boggles."
And, worse ...
"that was rude sherief. im insulted on his behalf. that post was a lot more entertaining than anything you#ve ever writ"
SHERIEF SHOULD HAVE YOUR FUCKING HIDE FOR THIS RECKLESS, PATHOLOGICAL SHITE.
IT IS NOW WELL PAST TIME YOU APOLOGISED, FUCKER, OR GET THE FUCK OFF THIS FORUM ... YOU
SMUG, RACIST LITTLE SHITE!!! AND SHAME ON THOSE OTHER POSTERS HERE WHO PRETEND TO
TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY ...
You want me to EXPOSE you?
[AND WHERE the fuck are the "mods" on this forum? Shootin' up? Given up? Run away?]
Well. Enough of this sheeaat, yet already? take your pathetic ravings off this forum