autonomicforthepeople said:I watched the game yesterday. I saw Rooney step on a guy's crotch, then shove his club teammate Cristiano Ronaldo. I saw Ronaldo play an amazing game and I don't remember him doing anything dirty.
So, why is it that people are so incredibly pissed off at him, saying he can't (better not) go back to Man U, etc? Did I miss something or are people just being childish, sore losers?
gek-opel said:I think the English fans give Rooney a pass on this one cos he's a world class player who's had every opportunity to perform utterly muted by a manager who has failed to make the most of his greatest asset. Also, whilst Ronaldo hads done noting wrong within the rules of the game, (and played a pretty exciting game all told) his utter smugness was rather insufferable wasn't it?
Er hang on, he did rush over to the ref completely needlessly, so what else would he have been saying other that trying get Rooney booked/sent off?
Dunno about that, Crouch had a good game against Portugal and anyway the point is that Portugal were weak enough that if we had played any two strikers we would have beaten them. Obviously Eriksson got it wrong by not taking enough/the right strikers but that shouldn't have mattered on Saturday. There is no need to play a holding midfielder against a side so lacking in ambition when we have such a strong defence, 4-4-2 was the obvious way to play it tactically and because the players are familiar with it. It seems criminal that Lennon has frightened the life out of defenders when he's come on and yet only seems to be a back-up plan."4/5/1 was the best formation england could play yesterday because crouch is shit"
They did. If you watched that game as a neutral who didn't know who either team was then you would have said that the blokes in white were (slightly) better, they had more chances and they had better chances. Also the maroon team had no ideas and no desire when they went a man up. Don't get me wrong though, being slightly better than a rubbish team is nothing to get excited about and it's what's happened with England in every game in the tournament."England didn't deserve to win"
I think Deco was the brains of the team, with him they looked a different proposition. England had the easiest possible run to the quarter-final and they had the easiest quarter, made all the easier becuase Portugal were missing their star player. Although I still maintain England were slightly better than Portugal they blew it because they should have been miles better and they should have been able to do enough to guarantee that they didn't need penalties."It beggars belief that Holland couldn't find a way past Portugal with Robben and Van Persie."
They did. If you watched that game as a neutral who didn't know who either team was then you would have said that the blokes in white were (slightly) better, they had more chances and they had better chances. Also the maroon team had no ideas and no desire when they went a man up. Don't get me wrong though, being slightly better than a rubbish team is nothing to get excited about and it's what's happened with England in every game in the tournament.
I agree that having a man sent off isn't an excuse, part of the game is keeping your players on the pitch because it's harder without them. Seeing how average Portugal were after that is part of what makes it so annoying that we gave them the respect of concentrating more on negating them than playing our own game.
"They were interested in having a coffee or tea and finding out if he could be a potential candidate to be put on the shortlist.
"We did not take it too seriously because you expect that if you are in the world of football then you know who Guus Hiddink is and what he has achieved on a club level and on a national level.
"I think either you go for him or you don't go for him, not sit down to find out if he might be good enough to have his name put on a list of candidates.
foret said:neither side could claim any distinction, and the papers that hyped england to the skies now symbiotically feed the popular idiocy that england were sold down the river by some conniving yurpean pussies and the national self image is refreshed with more emetic crap about courageous defeats and thank god we've got a proper english mananger now and the lads did quality (not suggesting people here buy into this shit)