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a wonderful wooden reason
leave morris alone! he's really sweet.
And he's done more than most to try and rescue hapless ravers from the perils of trance.
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leave morris alone! he's really sweet.
is mixmaster morris still going?
i remember him being smart and knowledgeable, how does he live tho?
anyone know?
Plus Megatripolis wasn't as hardcore as the Laserdrome in Peckham (strictly ragga jungle)
any photos of Laserdrome??![]()
i was just pondering yesterday how quite a lot of the now "tasteful" minimal euro minimal techno *must* have its roots in euro trance. must be the same producers flogging their wares.
not exactly an insult (perhaps a compliment) but it seems all the writing about minimal techno is ahistorical, conveying the (illusion, surely) that the music emerged from an egg which floated to the surface of the sea..........
do you have any examples? i would say 'euro' minimal techno was around before 'euro' trance, but we're in the mire... i remember people arguing between what they saw as Techno, and what they considered House... some people saw the difference as 909 beats over 135 bpm = techno, 808 beats under 135 bpm house.... lol... obviously, in extremities it is easier to pigeonhole.
for minimal 'euro' techno i'm thinking early 90's stuff on lables like Djax-up-Beats, stuff by Like A Tim etc.
do you have any examples? i would say 'euro' minimal techno was around before 'euro' trance, but we're in the mire... i remember people arguing between what they saw as Techno, and what they considered House... some people saw the difference as 909 beats over 135 bpm = techno, 808 beats under 135 bpm house.... lol... obviously, in extremities it is easier to pigeonhole.
for minimal 'euro' techno i'm thinking early 90's stuff on lables like Djax-up-Beats, stuff by Like A Tim etc.
In most cases I've never found making the distinction between house and techno to be overly tricky, except with stuff that deliberately straddles both camps. It's an aesthetic thing really but house generally uses more natural sounding instrumentation and vocals or vocal snippets while techno as a rule sounds more synthetic. Also, broadly speaking of course, house is pumping and funky while techno is more linear and austere. Technical definitions are hard to make but really you know house when you hear it and you know techno when you hear it. And you know when something is a bit of both. It's not that hard.
i'm not so sure - there are tracks where you can definitely point to one or other. but like i said, theres some hard-as-nails house jack trax out there which are as minimal and creepy as any techno. conversely, theres a lot of detroit techno which is very soulful with female vox. you could argue that techno is more syncopated (in a less rigidly quantized fashion) than house but even that doesn't hold true for all tracks.
For me it's always had something to do with the balance of intentions, or attitudes in the music - and maybe this is connected to my ideas about the cultural milieux from which the two styles originate. But yeah this is a massive and basically insoluble debate that runs perpetually on countless message boards. I think it's best we don't get too far into it here?
Let's get back trance, it's safer.