Sly & the Family Stone - 'Collection' (2007)

gumdrops

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im thinking of going. god knows what it will be like. i did see graham central station in the late 90s supporting prince though and they were really strong and surprisingly great (various original family stone members were in the band).
 

crackerjack

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Yup, I'm goin, the prospect of Bournemouth Opera House and him is too surreal to turn away. I doubt he'll make it though, it's like the end of eight dates or something. He's one of those ones I just gotta go pay respect to, Jimmy Scott, Yoko Ono, Al Green, Bo Diddley, one of them ones in my cannon...

I'm going to see Al in June at the RAH. Better be quick with Bo....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6664525.stm


I think if Larry Graham was still in the Family I'd go since I'm sure he can still hold it down (Jehova's Witness or no). Like MS, I doubt Sly will show. But if he does, could it really be like Nick Cohn's Elvis moment?


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,,1992233,00.html
 

gumdrops

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i wouldnt really recommend bo diddley - his band are very kitsch now, and the arrangements from what i remember when i saw him at the jazz cafe a few years back were a bit cabaret. but if you wanna see him just for the sake of literally seeing him then do it. i think hes just had a stroke though so not sure if hes going to be doing much performing.
 

mistersloane

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I'm going to see Al in June at the RAH. Better be quick with Bo....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6664525.stm


I think if Larry Graham was still in the Family I'd go since I'm sure he can still hold it down (Jehova's Witness or no). Like MS, I doubt Sly will show. But if he does, could it really be like Nick Cohn's Elvis moment?


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/story/0,,1992233,00.html

Me too on Al Green at the RAH, I heard he ain't that hot live but it gotta be done. I saw Bo at the Jazz Cafe a coupla years back, and touched them hem of his cape! He was good, did like a 15 minute jam, funky.

It's kinda like duty, innit?, going to this stuff. I just can't imagine what the Sly thing will be like. I may take acid anyway, just for the old days.
 

mistersloane

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i wouldnt really recommend bo diddley - his band are very kitsch now, and the arrangements from what i remember when i saw him at the jazz cafe a few years back were a bit cabaret. but if you wanna see him just for the sake of literally seeing him then do it. i think hes just had a stroke though so not sure if hes going to be doing much performing.

lol at my post above. I know what you mean, but he definitelty went out for about ten minutes. He was always kinda cabaret though, no?
 

gumdrops

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no way was he always cabaret! i saw some footage of him from the (early?) 60s with johnny guitar watson and bo was fierce! hes old now though, and the band are crappy, so theres not much chance theyre going to be tight and do songs like who do you love and bo diddley anywhere near as good as they are on record. it was kinda cool when i went though just cos the audience was a lot of old time rock n rollers who must have been into him in the 60s so were all quite excited. not sure what they really thought of it though. there was one guy at the end who was waiting at the door with an original chess lp from the 50s trying to get bo to sign it - cant remember if he actually did it or not but he got escorted out the venue pretty quicksharp.
 
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mistersloane

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no way was he always cabaret! i saw some footage of him from the (early?) 60s with johnny guitar watson and bo was fierce! hes old now though, and the band are crappy, so theres not much chance theyre going to be tight and do songs like who do you love and bo diddley anywhere near as good as they are on record. it was kinda cool when i went though just cos the audience was a lot of old time rock n rollers who must have been into him in the 60s so were all quite excited. not sure what they really thought of it though. there was one guy at the end who was waiting at the door with an original chess lp from the 50s trying to get bo to sign it - cant remember if he actually did it or not but he got escorted out the venue pretty quicksharp.

Man, some of his stuff ( Black Gladiator, Where It All Began ) is just the best ever, soooo deep and funky, like he would play all night, one riff, but he always did that jokey stuff as well, the dozens type shit. He's totally the man. Where did you see that footage? I'll have a youtube of him now actually, never done that yet.
 

crackerjack

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Bo in his heyday was more theatrical than cabaret. A black guy in jet black shades strutting the stage like he owned it, playing his guitar like a gunslinger.

he wasn't just threateningly sexual like so many black stars, he looked physically menacing.

 

gumdrops

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there was a theatrical or somewhat silly element to him - just look at some of his album covers. but i never thought of him as cabaret (although im thinking of cabaret in the supper club sense).

i like this pic of him -
http://www.altmanphoto.com/BoDiddley.jpeg

that other one, which is kinda famous, of him wrapped up in leather and what looks like almost S&M gear is another brilliant one (couldnt find it just now though). usually you see fey or skinny guys in that sort of gear but cos hes so massive it makes it look quite imposing.
 

mistersloane

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Bo in his heyday was more theatrical than cabaret. A black guy in jet black shades strutting the stage like he owned it, playing his guitar like a gunslinger.

he wasn't just threateningly sexual like so many black stars, he looked physically menacing.


I'd still say doing a song where he says 'hey man I saw your mother yesterday, she was carrying a mattress on her back, I said what you doin, she said, movin" is kinda more cabaret than theatre, but it's a tiny point with regard the total majesty of the man.
 

crackerjack

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I'd still say doing a song where he says 'hey man I saw your mother yesterday, she was carrying a mattress on her back, I said what you doin, she said, movin" is kinda more cabaret than theatre, but it's a tiny point with regard the total majesty of the man.

Fair point, i was forgetting all the Say Man stuff. That gets prettty corny pretty quickly.

I worked in an Our Price once (it was a rite of passage back then) and played some Bo to the shop's resident metal fan. After two minutes he shook his head and said, "So that's where the Stones got it all from." He took Bo's Greatest Hits home with him that night.
 

mistersloane

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I worked in an Our Price once (it was a rite of passage back then) and played some Bo to the shop's resident metal fan. After two minutes he shook his head and said, "So that's where the Stones got it all from." He took Bo's Greatest Hits home with him that night.

That's a great story, I did acid once and just listened to 'Bad Trip' for six hours straight, my poor neighbours...
 

crackerjack

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Interview with Sly in this month's Vanity Fair. Hard to know exactly what to make of it. Some of it (blaming wicked promoters for a lot of his no-shows and claiming he's been clean for 15 years) beggars bnelief. But he doesn't come out of it too badly - seems healthy enough and reasonably lucid, if not loquacious.
 

crackerjack

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What was Sly's drug of choice?

Famously coke. No doubt he went through some others in his time, but that was his baby.

(Read the Barney Hoskyns piece in OMM in which he talks about Sly's helicopter having to go back into land so he and Booby Womack could swap places - Sly was in ther wrong seat and the wind was blowing his blow all over the place).
 

mistersloane

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Off to see them in Bournemouth tonight if anyone's going, I'm wearing a bright red versayce shirt with jellyfish all over it, you fucking can't miss me.
 
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