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Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Then I'd watch out if I were you - we all know what pricks can do to bottoms, right?
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
This is definitely an easy cliche, albeit sometimes true. Another reason for hatred of people with certain characteristics can be a kind of non-aspirational jealousy - in that you don't really want to be like that person, but being like them sure would make things easier (my own hatred of pushy people contains a little bit of this).
Great Orwell quote upthread, btw.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Yeah, that's a good point. I'm sure we've all known at least one perfectly nice girl who's going out with a complete wanker, for example...
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nomadologist
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are you talking about hate or envy?
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
For 'at least one', read 'countless'. Needn't be a complete wanker, tho' - more often someone you can't really hate, but is nevertheless a bit of a dick.
I'm not bitter. I'm NOT.
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
I think he's talking about hateful envy.
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nomadologist
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Hahaha, obviously I know what it *actually* means, I was just messing about. Jeez, you take the bait every time, don't you?
i wasn't talking to you
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nomadologist
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but do you hate aggressive, pushy, arrogant people because you yourself don't have the balls to act that way?
i've noticed introspective, shy people in general clash with aggressive pushy people.
of course, the "mirroring" idea is a cliche, but if you thinkabout why you "hate" anything, there are usually pretty obvious strong unconscious mechanisms at work
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nomadologist
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i've tried to give up envying people. it doesn't change anything in my life and i've slowly learned that even the people i envy most (the super-rich) have serious problems of their own, more often than not.
hateful envy is the least attractive emotion in another person, imo
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no, i was talking about IdleRich's response to MY comment about yours.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
No, because such people are commonly regarded as dicks and I'd rather people didn't think that about me. I like the fact people generally consider me easy-to-get-on-with.
I certainly wouldn't say I'm shy - I'm just the sort of person that waits his turn in a queue rather than trying to push in front of other people, that sort of thing.
Aggressive, selfish people are just fucking annoying and unpleasant to be around, aren't they? It can't be a particularly controversial opinion I'm expressing here. I'm not saying everyone ought to be a self-effecing wimp either, there's plenty of middle ground.
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these sorts of standards are highly subjective and vary widely in degree from person to person
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I don't think it's terribly 'subjective' to say that people who habitually push into queues are dicks, they just ARE.
Rudeness and discourtesy piss me right off. I'm not saying you have to go out of your way to please others every waking minute, but people who go around like they're the only person on earth that matters shouldn't be surprised that they don't have many friends.
Rudeness and discourtesy piss me right off. I'm not saying you have to go out of your way to please others every waking minute, but people who go around like they're the only person on earth that matters shouldn't be surprised that they don't have many friends.
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preppy-kei
I hate people who push into queues. It's not just a question of manners or courtesy or whatever, it's a clear signal that you think you are more IMPORTANT than everybody else, and why should your charmed arse have to wait in line with all the other schmucks?
Me and my chums thought it was hilarious one night when a certain member of a certain electro-pop act (who I quite like actually) pushed into a queue outside a club in front of us and had the bouncer escort him and his girlfriend about forty yards down the street to the end of the line. "Do you know who I am, I'm friends with the headline DJ, etc, etc,"
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I'd say that I'm rather shy and introspective, and although most of the time pushy people don't get along with me (and vice versa) some of my best friends are quite aggressive and extroverted.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
How do you mean 'aggressive', though? Do you mean 'assertive, head-strong' or 'likes to pick fights with strangers'? Because if it's the second type, someone like that'd have to have some pretty amazing redeeming features for me to want to be friends with them.
name and shame!