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crackerjack
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Seems like everyone* and his uncle is in favour. Only FIFA can save us now
*everyone who matters, that is
crackerjack
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I left Manchester years ago and with every passing season get less and less interested in football.
But I still get buzzed up to fuck by things like this.
Who saw it? Were Utd as poor as the minute-by-minutes made out?
But I still get buzzed up to fuck by things like this.
Who saw it? Were Utd as poor as the minute-by-minutes made out?
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they never really got it together and were obviously very frustrated. city played an excellent game i thought too. ronaldo was non-existent. adebayor's tied him now in scoring
There's something about that Roanldo that's just loathsome. Can't remember the last time I hated one player so much, and he just gets worse - the way he reacts after scoring, like even he is dazzled by his own brilliance...i have to switch channels
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It summed him up when he banged in that free kick to beat Sporting early in the season- the team he started at- and he still pulled his 'who, moi?' face when he scored it. I know it's awful but I really would be relieved if he broke his legs and never played again; I can't hack people with that much talent and luck who're still just cheating cunts.
hleb is the finest player to watch in england and funny and gracious to go with it judging by his broken english tv app after last night
utd are a bit of a curate's egg, playing well only when the players are left to their own ends, and then naive when they're cramped into a 442ish array in the important games with the golden one completely wasted wide right- like it or not he's so far ahead even of the players on that side with only anderson likely to get near his level assuming they play him correctly (as an attacking, not defensive midfielder)
that said i've warmed to them this season and hope they win above arsenal, who are a bit bland outside of the hleb-fabregas-rosicky triad
innit
hopefully messi gets luckier with injuries (largely endured cos he's tiny and actually runs at defenders) and gently overshadows ronaldo over the next 10 years or so
also pato, krkic and aguero
utd are a bit of a curate's egg, playing well only when the players are left to their own ends, and then naive when they're cramped into a 442ish array in the important games with the golden one completely wasted wide right- like it or not he's so far ahead even of the players on that side with only anderson likely to get near his level assuming they play him correctly (as an attacking, not defensive midfielder)
that said i've warmed to them this season and hope they win above arsenal, who are a bit bland outside of the hleb-fabregas-rosicky triad
innit
hopefully messi gets luckier with injuries (largely endured cos he's tiny and actually runs at defenders) and gently overshadows ronaldo over the next 10 years or so
also pato, krkic and aguero
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Three in four so far for Pato- he's doing well! seems a good lad so far too; I've watched the highlights of the games he's played in and haven't noticed any of the cheating that the Ronaldo/Fabregas/Robben/Messi bunch that emerged a couple of years ago love to pull out.
Agree with you about Anderson as well- I think he could get really, really special...
Agree with you about Anderson as well- I think he could get really, really special...
crackerjack
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http://football.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,2263671,00.html
Interesting piece this. Is this waht our choice comes down to? England as the centre of the neo-liberal football industry with 4 teams in the CL quarter finals or an insular league with real competition drawing large domestic crowds, but losing its best players abroad and never threatening the final stages of the top tournament. Which would you prefer?
IdleRich
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I think he's mixing up club and country in that article - I mean, German clubs have never had the success of those from Spain, Italy or England but they've always been a force in world cups - has that really changed? I don't think that there is necessarily a direct correlation between how good a nation's club sides are and how good the international side is and the same can be said for whether the best players play at home or abroad. In other words, the wealth of a nation's clubs does not necessarily direct affect the status of a nation as a "footballing power".
If one was just talking about clubs though you may have a point about the choice facing fans (although it won't be fans that make the decision), presumably the more money clubs can make from fans the more players they can buy and the more success they have. I don't know how long the Premiership can carry on charging so much for games though (hence the desire to expand overseas presumably - which fortunately looks as though it's been quickly slapped down).
Interesting to note that Inter had no Italian players yesterday - maybe they would have done better if they did seeing as Italy are world champions.
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From what I've seen of Bundesliga matches on telly, the crowds are more vibrant than those in the UK - impressively so, sometimes.
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Well, we do have The Championship, which is, I think, the fifth most popular league in Europe. The quality is poor (don't be fooled by the FA Cup results), and certainly there aren't the players of the quality of Ribery, Toni and Podolski that the Bundesliga does, but it is affordable. So long as you don't go to Crystal Palace, which is like £30 a game or something.
crackerjack
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German teams have done better than you're giving them credit for, both historically and recently. Bayern, obviously, are the best by a distanc, won a hatrick of European Cups in the 70s. Germany isn't on a par with England, Italy or Spain, but they've provided three finalists (incl one winner) in the last 10 years.
Historically they've provided 13 finalists (just one less than England) spread across 6 teams (as many as England and Italy, more than Spain). From that to supplying just Schalke - the weakest of this year's quarter finalists - is quite a fall off.
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IdleRich
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Well, they're supplying one team, the same number as Italy and Spain. Maybe Schalke are the weakest but they are there by winning games, would it be different if Bayern were the one team? To me it's the dominance of the English clubs that is more noteworthy than any German retreat although I agree they are two sides of the same coin.
crackerjack
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Italy and Spain both had 3 in the last 16 though - Germany just 1. And, Sevilla excepted, their teams went out to other sides from the 'big 3' nations.
crackerjack
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1 plays 4? So that's Liverpool v Chelsea take 3 (Arse are on the slide at the mo and I think the Milan game was a magnificent freak).
Barca v Man Yoo shd be some semi. On paper both teams have about 8 goals each in them, so expect a 0-0 and 1-0.