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Wrong thread kinda but I reckon Spooky is the biggest Don across all 'scenes' for the last year or so. I think he makes the only midrangey stuff that I don't turn off instantly too.
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
I like Mr. Tickle, he has a new EP. It samples dogs barking

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"Mr Tickle or "Tickles" is the Alter Ego of one of the U.K's brightest new vocalists."

Anyone know who this is for sure? I'm guessing Jamie George cos of the Roska connection.
 

rrrivero

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Continuing the funky wobble discussion

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Not feeling, but its a good example of where Funky might be going, generally.

I wouldn't even call this funky anymore, meh.

On a more positive note, I listened to that Blade, Murdz, Jewlsy recording from April again and it was lovely. I need to listen to more Live FM & Deja
 
Continuing the funky wobble discussion

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Not feeling, but its a good example of where Funky might be going, generally.

But that's a bit arbitrary isn't it? I mean, if you wanna be that negative you could pick any other Shay & Sinista track like say "Remember The Edge" or that "Back To The House" new one and say it's all going piano house. Or something equally silly like picking a random vocal tune and say it's all girls singing or something.

Nothing wrong with big basslines, not at all, as long as there's a good balance and not all the tunes sound samey, which I don't think is a problem with this music, nor will it be any soon.
I mean if you only listen to Marcus Nasty shows it might.. or not even that... but lock in to live fm, or deja, or house fm and you will hear little of that, or go to Fluid Bar tonight, or go to Talk any funky night, or If Bar, etc and I don't think you'll see anything close to that.

As much as it scares dubstep people, UKF is a spawn of house music after all.
 
For the ones liking big bassline tunes though, Marcus Nasty has a new label releasing the first EP next month, tunes by Eastwood, Naughty Raver, Sunday Roast & Jook 10:
By the way, I'm back to Sub Fm tonight, 10-12 UK Time, if you wanna hear the balance I'm talking about :D
 

rrrivero

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That's just it, init, balance. The reason I said I need to listen to more Deja and Live FM is because I'm not feeling the balance in MN shows right now. It's getting a bit too bombastic for me after the vocals (which are basically the same every week).

I feel like Eastwood, LR Groove, Murdz etc are somehow better at striking that balance, which is why I'm enjoying their shows a lot more these days

Even that We Are Bass EP, shit I've been looking forward to it for months. Somehow it works whilst that new Shay and Sinista tune definitely does not. Then again the We Are Bass EP is all about Toilet Blocker for me, the rest is alright I guess

edit: big up Shay & Sinista every other time though
 
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rrrivero

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I'm making too many posts today, sorry, but I've been reading up on ILX and there's a champion remix posted there I don't think was ever posted here

Sugababes - Freedom (Champion Vocal mix)

it's baaaaangin

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^^so is this!

@DavidM would love to listen to your show but have to go now, so I hope somebody records it
 
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Tim F

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It's easy to read too much into micro-developments.

Six months ago it seemed like MN was in danger of going boring trad deep tribal house, now he seems to be too bombastic and bass-driven, back in early 2009 he went through a period of deliberately cluttering his sets with unusually tepid vocal numbers - I think often he doesn't really know where he's going.
 

Tentative Andy

I'm in the Meal Deal
The debate in the last couple of pages about wobbly tunes coming from the likes of Jook 10 and S&S has got me thinking (not always a good idea, I know). This will prob be a bit of a rambling tl;dr post that covers points already made but bear with me, I’m partly trying to get things straight in my own head here.

It’s weird, since around the start of the year I’ve def heard more wobbly tunes in funky than before, but I’ve also heard more tunes that remind me of mid-2000s dubstep vibes as well. The Night Slugs kind of sound seems to have more traction in the scene than it did before too. I feel the scene is quite open to outside sounds at the moment (though of course to an extent it’s always been quite diverse sound-wise – to me funky is defined by the kinds of beats used more than anything else and the type of sounds you stick on top of the beats is much less fixed). I suppose that the producers and DJs have realised that to get by they need to appeal to as many groups of people as possible and not shut anyone out (this come across in interviews I’ve read with people like Champion).

Sometimes I worry though that people around funky are overly paranoid about various sounds ‘taking over’ the entire genre. It’s like if anyone makes an aggy banger kind of track, then people will say the scene is heading into some nasty lads’ mosh-pit zone where it’ll be peak all night and no contrast or dynamics in tunes. If anyone makes a tune with a deep or ‘eyes down’ feel, then people will say that the scene is heading into undanceable, experimentation for its sake territory that hardly anyone will be interested in.

If anyone makes a tune that’s obviously influenced by trad house then people (and I fully own up to being one of the worst offenders for this..) will say that the scene is destined to become too tasteful and tepid, that it’s going backwards and losing its sense of identity. if anyone puts out a tune or does a radio set that’s strongly MC-dominated, people will say the scene is turning into grime part II, with again no dancing and no girls, and a return of the bad attitudes and crippling scene rivalries associate with grime. If anyone does a vocal tune with a poppy r’n’b feel, people will say the whole thing is becoming some poorly-produced, trashy teen-girl phenomenom, with wall to wall bad singing and no depth or profundity.

Obviously in part this just shows that people care about the music, which is a good thing, and I wouldn’t want to advocate an ‘anything goes’ attitude. And it also testifies to the fact that a big part of what people like about funky is the balance of vibes. But still, being overprotective like this can stifle development; new trends appearing and people having a go at them are a big part of how scenes develop, and mistakes and ‘going too far’ can be part of this at times.

I’m aware here that I’m straying close to the sort of ‘If you can’t say something positive don’t say anything/stop imposing your external standards on the music, man’ anti-analysis stance that I sometimes call other people out for. Like I said, I’ve def not claiming to be above the sort of concern I’m talking about here, and I don’t think it’s just a problem with scene insiders or ‘gatekeepers’ either: it can just as often come from sceptics on the fringes of the scene doing a sort of vindicated ‘Ahah! Didn’t I tell you it was all going to turn to shit?” thing. But perhaps it’s really an objective problem with the music, that at this stage it has so much weight of history behind that we all think we can foresee any road it might go down, and reckon from previous experience that the end point of most of these roads is not a good place. Which is kind of depressing.
 
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