his posts are one of the best things about dissensus
Absolutely OTM.
his posts are one of the best things about dissensus
but whatever one might judge his motivations to be, his posts were informative, thought-provoking and challenging, which surely is what this place is about
i can sympathise with an instinctive desire to create harmonious spaces, but i would be very disappointed if he didn't come back
thought that debate on PC language policing could have gone somewhere)
his posts are one of the best things about dissensus
Maybe so (and maybe not), but definitely not the whole story."Absolutely OTM"
"honestly don't remember any occasion where he was ill mannered..."
Maybe so (and maybe not), but definitely not the whole story.
The thing is, he had some interesting things to say so on that front I was glad he was here, but for the most part I'd duck out of a thread once he showed up in it because I didn't want to have to deal with the shitstorm that would emerge if I actually disagreed with anything he said.Agreed. Did wish he'd explain his ideas more thoroughly instead of going for the throats of individual posters
To render this concrete: Why is HMLT causing "offence" to certain posters any worse than Vimothy's read-between-the-lines racism etc?
This gets onto something I was meaning to discuss here actually, as regards insults/offence vs other stuff. Part of the result of "Political Correctness", the originary movement and the response to it and then the gross confusion as to what it all actually meant has been to imagine that its not the actual oppression of say, racism, which is the problem, but rather its the fact that being racist causes offence. So in the misunderstanding, (deliberate of course on the part of those who are ACTUALLY racist and sexist and homophobic and want to continue to be so) the original idea of taking on the power dynamic inherent in words and phrases collapses into mere offence.
To render this concrete: Why is HMLT causing "offence" to certain posters any worse than Vimothy's read-between-the-lines racism etc?
Fair point, and like I said, I don't want him or anybody banned. I'm just absolutely gobsmacked by Zhao's refusal to see what's right in front of his nose and clearly visible to everyone else. I'm not saying that's a reason to ban HMLT I just think it's a bit weird to pretend it's not there."If I wanted manners I'd talk to people at work."
But that was when he insulted me and is a good case in point. I had pointed out that he had got something the wrong way round (which he had), he then called me a racist (although the issue was nothing to do with race) and went on every other thread that I had commented on recently and called me a wanker. Not very helpful I reckon."Yah, I read HMLT's insults as putting this critique into practice (you called it "Irish charm" once?)."
Or Zhao's read between the lines fascism, or, indeed, your own read between the lines fascism... It's a tough question.
Agreed. Did wish he'd explain his ideas more thoroughly instead of going for the throats of individual posters (thought that debate on PC language policing could have gone somewhere), but hey, he's got his style and I've got mine. Can't offended parties put him on ignore instead of an outright ban?
Time to go and look up the word "fascism". Contra to the selection of rightwing nutsacks you voraciously consume Vim it does not simply= "someone with whom I strongly disagree."