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Possibly dropping the bomb is a reference to the Art Blakey school of drumming, where you mash-up the linear flow of hard bop by smacking the bass drum really hard on an off-key moment.
bassnation said:. but i'd disagree that the half tempo bass came in very late in jungles development. there were lots of 'ardkore tracks with that slow bass, genaside ii "narra mine" immediately springs to mind, and that was released in 1991!
bassnation said:. again agreed, but even if they suggested trepidation i found that buzzy at the time. even the darkest 'ardkore was rushy through its sheer nastiness.
blissblogger said:as well as genaside, another early slow b-line thing was this oozy sinewave type basspresha style that came in -- with urban shakedown 'some justice' a prime example
bassnation said:that track was way ahead of its time (possibly along with lenny de ice "we are ie" as a sign of things to come with jungle). but what ever happened to them? didn't they release a so-so album and then disappear into obscurity?
i've been listening to a lot of bleep hardcore recently like fantasy ufo - a complete rip of lfo in some ways but that bass just makes the room shake.
bassnation said:i've been listening to a lot of bleep hardcore recently like fantasy ufo - a complete rip of lfo in some ways but that bass just makes the room shake.
blissblogger said:that's really interesting stuff Naphta
it'd almost be interesting to see the opposite view, a defence from someone who got into it AFTER its decline
i know jess has made some defences of nuskool d&b and not just the choppage/breakage revival stuff, but he's also an original raggAmen type, it'd be quite interesting to get the view from someone who PREFERS the post-97 stuff
also be interesting to posit an alternate history path -- how jungle could have gone and kept moving that wouldn't have been such a boshy dead end
i suppose 2step is actually that path, maybe.
Naphta said:You mean as in 2-step garage? It certainly has a Jungle-tastic flavour to it I guess.... and if the vibe went anywhere, ity went here. Shame none of it is half as good as good Jungle though!
blissblogger said:it'd almost be interesting to see the opposite view, a defence from someone who got into it AFTER its decline
blissblogger said:it'd almost be interesting to see the opposite view, a defence from someone who got into it AFTER its decline
i know jess has made some defences of nuskool d&b and not just the choppage/breakage revival stuff, but he's also an original raggAmen type, it'd be quite interesting to get the view from someone who PREFERS the post-97 stuff
matt b said:listen to early jungle- its rhythmically complex, but sounds well slooow compared to later stuff- i don't think there is any real relationship between the 2
classic drum'n'bass /jungle djs play stuff at or around +6, not +8
blissblogger said:it'd almost be interesting to see the opposite view, a defence from someone who got into it AFTER its decline
i know jess has made some defences of nuskool d&b and not just the choppage/breakage revival stuff, but he's also an original raggAmen type, it'd be quite interesting to get the view from someone who PREFERS the post-97 stuff