def does not rock
this thread has confused me... it is clear only about 33% of dissensians understand what rocks:
bands that rock AND are good:
black sabbath
black flag
stooges
the sonics
sex pistols
jimi hendrix
aerosmith (up to 1979)
jesus lizard
laughing hyenas
bad brains
zz top (up to 79 as well, maybe early 80's...)
johnny thunders and the heartbreakers
bands that rock, yet ARE NOT THAT GOOD (ie. for the most part can not write songs or play):
blue cheer (who ever said summertime blues sucks is a retard)
alice cooper
motorhead
deep purple
budgie
grand funk
ac/dc
man (early stuff)
slade
bands that DO NOT ROCK, yet are good
pere ubu
joy division
can
note:
the velvet underground and led zeppelin both SOMETIMES rock...
also:
bands that "FAKE" rocking:
the clash
the rolling stones (a good "groove" band from 66-73, but i never believe them rocking...)
van halen (i am sorry to me, they do not rock)
True. But also it is the case that some Rock bands do not rock, while some Rock n Roll bands do.there's definitely a difference between Rock bands and Rock n Roll bands, and we're all getting a bit mixed up here.
True. But also it is the case that some Rock bands do not rock, while some Rock n Roll bands do.
True. But also it is the case that some Rock bands do not rock, while some Rock n Roll bands do.
And whether you like them or not, Aerosmith plainly rock* From what I know of The Sonics they rock as well I would say.
* OK - you didn't question this.
Agreed there. This is such a vague subject that its very difficult to have a meaningful discussion, beyond listing bands that get you going.
Going back to the original subject of this thread, its clear that the Americans win hands down here. They own the territory don't they?
the dead boys ARE awesome, but they go under: bands that rock but are NOT that good, as the best songs on their first LP were written by the Pere Ubu dude... (who does not rock, yet writes great songs...)
If you can tell tell me that David Thomas doesn't let it totally loose on What Love Is for Rocket, I don't know what to say...
Absolute face-melter! Still slays me...
oh and the Electric Eels, whilst totally awesome, sick, ahead of their time, and mental, do not rock... their are too shakey sounding...
in general, but plenty of british bands DO rock:
the pistols
the damned (in a fun fair sort of way)
DISCHARGE (fuck yes)
motorhead
sham 69 (that live version of "rip off" rocks to no end)
slade (their cover of "move over" by janis joplin rocks so hard it is painful)
the who (admitally only like 15% of the time, but that live version of My generation on the smothers brothers show where the entire drum kit explodes ROCKS)
the Kinks- rocked for about 7 songs, but the influence of those 7 songs and the fact that Dave Davies played lead guitar like a man with a hook for a hand = ROCK
but, there is a real primal, gritty, lose your fucking mind thing involved in REALLY rocking out that a lot of british bands do not get... however, there is live version of sunshine of your love where ginger baker's eyes are like rolling in the back of his head as he is playing that simple dumb ass drum beat, so there are always exceptions...
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like, Frigid Pink, a very dumb dumb band, but man do they fucking rock...
Crazy talk from the rock gatekeeper! As i understood it they presented themselves as a glam rock band of sorts...though of course i only heard them and their story very after the time. The bozoid thuggish quality they have is essentially ROCK in my eyes. or ears.
Sham 69 and Discharge on the other hand are certainly punk which is a whole nother kettle of coconuts
I've got an appalling hangover and i just got a couple of good laughs out of this thread
Maybe I'll dig out my VHS of "Texas Jam '78"
DISCHARGE (fuck yes)
Glad you mentioned The Pistols, just watched Filth and the fury again last night. Still blows my mind.
And You Really Got Me might well be the best rock song ever written and played.
Was it you who said the Stones didn't rock? Are you MAD!
Note that all the bands we're talking about are fucking at least 30 years old :slanted:
does a Stones song ever make you lose your shit, really?
The Stones' first album (made up almost entirely of covers) might make you lose yer shit. No 'steady grooves' on that one, its absolutely flat-out.