swears
preppy-kei
gravediggaz?
Yeah! That's an even better example, there was a little genre for a while back there called "Horrorcore" in the mid-90s. Some of DMX's stuff is very fatalistic and morbid, too. There's probably loads of stuff.
gravediggaz?
I think there can be (see the pdf linked to upthread - lots of racist/odinist/nazi biz) but there doesn't have to be. Killing Joke for example managed to combine goth with tribalism.
wu-tang and wordsound are goth-hop
you might be right about a disengagement from politics, though I do recall some gothy anarcho punk things (was it amebix?)
the more miserabalist elements of the Shaka / UK Dub scene can get pretty goth also.
Father Christmas.
Surely you can't be serious? He lives in seclusion in a frigid land that is in darkness half the year and travels by sleigh.
vimothy said:Goth-dub:
Bauhaus -- In Fear of Dub
I remember reading once that Father Christmas is based on Odin/Woden, which is quite goth.
I remember reading once that Father Christmas is based on Odin/Woden, which is quite goth.
Alot of latino gang culture, the script is actually gothic, the images if tearful bleeding jesus' all that fated prison stuff, deeply depressing from the mags i've seen from san francisco etc, there is quite a heavy goth undertone to catholic latin american culture, newspapers with an emphasis in death, coffin joe movies the gothic script etc.
What made you start this thread swears? It's so random.
Think the ice queen is pretty goth, but Jesus/Aslan surely is the antithesis, and so couldn't be further from it...?
My experience at Sunday school was obviously very different to yours, Mr Tea.