Good tunes, bad influence

Client Eastwood

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The first Urban Tribe - Collaspe of Modern Culture was sublime and came then Authorised Clinical Trails which I couldnt get my head around.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Anything that influences a large number of other people has to have something going for it. Including the stuff I personally dislike. It can be a double-edged sword, too - the bleeding obvious example that springs to my mind is 'Spongebob': I think it's a great tune (for what it is), spawned a whole load of crap imitations but also perhaps opened the door in dubstep for synth madness generally.
 

minikomi

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A LITTLE SONG CALLED "GABRIEL" BY ELDER CHARLES, RECORDED IN THE 1930s:

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hucks

Your Message Here
A LITTLE SONG CALLED "GABRIEL" BY ELDER CHARLES, RECORDED IN THE 1930s:

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Oh, hats off!
 

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
Radiohead
Jazz Fusion (First wave of bands or so gets it fine... Then next thing you know, it all turns into elevator music!)
Hah, yeah, those were some that I was thinking of mentioning as well. Fusion is a particularly odd one because it's not like the people doing the imitating were musically inept either, they just somehow managed to get from Silent Way / Bitches Brew to near complete irrelevance in about a decade...
Anything that influences a large number of other people has to have something going for it.
Hmm, fair point. And anything that influences a large number of people is going to inspire some dross too.

But some people seem more prone to this than others? It's almost like some people succeed in spite of their chosen style and their followers fail because of it.
 

evanbbb

Tumbling Dice
This thread is starting to sound like the sacred cow redux thread. And that just turned into someone arguing hollyoaks was good.
 

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
This thread is starting to sound like the sacred cow redux thread. And that just turned into someone arguing hollyoaks was good.
I was aiming for almost the opposite tbh - appreciation of things that are sometimes obscured by the rubbishness of their imitators.

I guess I didn't count on the dissensus / indie kid habit of affirming your cutting-edgeness by randomly slating things that are a bit popular...
 

michael

Bring out the vacuum
Good tunes, bad influence thread, I'm happy for you, I'mma let you finish, but Minikomi had one of the best posts of all time. Of ALL TIME.

A LITTLE SONG CALLED "GABRIEL" BY ELDER CHARLES, RECORDED IN THE 1930s:

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michael

Bring out the vacuum
^ I dunno, you're probably in the right place. The tone has shifted more and more towards chatty conversation since the founders bailed. The Music for Fucking thread was a watershed. I laughed and laughed at heaps of that.

Annnnyway...

neptunes
timbaland
jay-z

BTW, were you thinking of specific artists who blatantly rip these bods off? Or that their influence moved the whole chart R&B/hip-hop thing in a worse direction than it had been going before them?
 
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CrowleyHead

Well-known member
I don't know anybody who reflect the influence of Timbo/Neptunes off the top of my head...

As opposed to dudes like

Again, Premier
AGAIN, Dilla
Trackmasters (Two good songs to their name, that's it.)
Pete Rock
Teddy Riley (Although when Bomb Squad rip him off, it sounds even better than his shit.)
Lil' Jon (I know people are going to stare at this one, but the guy helped create the foundation of a genre of hip-hop)

Jay, there are plenty of bad rappers who got influenced by him, of all shapes and sorts. I know Jin said that "Black Album" is one of his favorites of all time...
 
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