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IdleRich
16-05-2013, 05:09 PM
I like records with really heavy fuzz on them. Here are a couple I bought recently, can you recommend me some more


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqB8S-e5ULA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj-0pL7TXIw

Dunno why that first one won't embed, I've tried three times.

Leo
16-05-2013, 05:21 PM
that sounds like a combination of fuzz and blown amp speaker! i like.

mayyors are pretty raucous, maybe more punk noise than psyche fuzz. this vid contains their entire ep:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUBALRusdeE

IdleRich
16-05-2013, 05:33 PM
Yeah that's definitely pretty fucking raucous but I was thinking more of something where the fuzz can kinda breathe and blow your ears out on its own.

bassbeyondreason
16-05-2013, 07:03 PM
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Pre-ZZ Top:
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So far beyond fuzz it shouldn't even be here but it is:

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padraig (u.s.)
17-05-2013, 04:33 AM
what kind of fuzz do you want man? cos there's 1966-7 psych fuzz, 1969-71 heavy psych fuzz, proto-doom fuzz, JAMC-style proto-shoegaze fuzz, psych folk fuzz. I mean there's, like, thousands of records to be recommended. you gotta be more specific. and how obscure? I mean, like, you don't want to recommend just Blue Cheer, right? I'm never sure how much dissensus people actually know about guitar musics or not.

for the moment here are a couple fuzzy records tho
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proto-metal fuzz
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prepost chrome-style outre punk weirdness fuzz
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'ill see your pre-zz top fuzz and raise you pre-journey fuzz. don't stop believin...in fuzz!
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padraig (u.s.)
17-05-2013, 04:37 AM
there's also the whole school of japanese noisecore - gai, confuse, kuro, etc - following in the wake of disorder (like where discharge founded many schools of imitation, disorder only founded one, in kyushu, but a mighty one it was) but that's more like noise than fuzz, tho pretty fucking fuzzy noise, or noisy fuzz, I don't know. think you're more for 60s-style fuzz tho

connect_icut
17-05-2013, 05:29 AM
Ty Segall - who we've discussed elsewhere - has a new band that's actually called Fuzz. They sound a lot like Blue Cheer or The Groundhogs. My special lady just went on a road trip to see them play.

Sidebar: Ty actually plays drums in this band and if anyone is looking for fresh 70s rock-style breakbeats to sample, he's got 'em.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuTKuYBGLA0

Mr. Tea
18-05-2013, 04:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqB8S-e5ULA


You posted 'Speed' here before (great tune of course) but this just fucking slays. BTW, try removing the 's' from the 'https' in the URL.

Been so into these guys just lately:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9I5VyG3OOm8

Prepare to be DESTROYED!!!!

Mr. Tea
18-05-2013, 04:41 AM
There's a certain kind of extremely treble-y, fuzzed out guitar you hear on some (mostly) electronic music from the late '80s - listen here around 1:50 and again around 5:00.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Vr-jjmsaE&feature=player_detailpage#t=113s

You hear it in some Front 242 and even the first NIN album before they went all metal. I think it sounds quite cool.

Mr. Tea
18-05-2013, 06:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuTKuYBGLA0

I like this. This is good to:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0jqPvpn3sY&feature=player_detailpage

The vocals are a bit Beatles-y for my taste but there's some decent fuzz.

connect_icut
18-05-2013, 07:40 AM
Of course, I'm bound to say that the finest fuzz of this particular year has come from My Bloody Valentine. Seriously, m b v is a very (specifically) fuzzy album, with an incredibly warm, deep and rich sound, which still retains enough physicality to let you know the sound is coming from a seriously cranked amp. It's a more conventional/classic tone than he ever used in the band's Creation era but damn is it some good fuzz.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2FQ3ih0MoE

IdleRich
18-05-2013, 12:40 PM
Cheers for recommends, can't listen on this computer cos the sound seems to have broken but I will check those I don't know. Good call on Moving Sidewalks and Rallizes Denudes - although if I remember rightly that's just so badly recorded you can barely hear the band through the background noise which I suppose is what you're alluding too.


"what kind of fuzz do you want man? cos there's 1966-7 psych fuzz, 1969-71 heavy psych fuzz, proto-doom fuzz, JAMC-style proto-shoegaze fuzz, psych folk fuzz. I mean there's, like, thousands of records to be recommended. you gotta be more specific. and how obscure? I mean, like, you don't want to recommend just Blue Cheer, right? I'm never sure how much dissensus people actually know about guitar musics or not."
All kinds really as long as there is lots of it. Mainly the psych stuff. I want it to sound warm and make me feel weird. And if there is a pop-element then so much the better cos I like tunes.

IdleRich
18-05-2013, 05:12 PM
Ah, my friend has that Parasites of the Western World lp - thanks for reminding me that I want it.
That Vulcan tune is cool, never heard that before.

bassbeyondreason
18-05-2013, 08:31 PM
Good call on Moving Sidewalks and Rallizes Denudes - although if I remember rightly that's just so badly recorded you can barely hear the band through the background noise which I suppose is what you're alluding too.


Nah, that's his actual guitar tone. There are some pretty clear soundboard recordings and a semi-pro-shot film that are just as harsh.
Some more goodness:

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IdleRich
19-05-2013, 11:39 AM
"Nah, that's his actual guitar tone."
Yeah but I've never heard a good recording of it.

Apparently the Distortions of Darkness is related to this lp

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TT-rC9PXgV0/S1LYJsRREPI/AAAAAAAAAM8/4OsHN1GAxDo/s400/The+Firebirds+-++Light+my+fire+1969.jpg
I've got that one somewhere but haven't listened to it for years, maybe I should dig it out.

I should mention this great tune from the guy who is credited with inventing the fuzz sound


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL6MNGHeEuI

Also this is an early fuzz classic


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9UI92m77bY

connect_icut
19-05-2013, 05:49 PM
Nah, that's his actual guitar tone. There are some pretty clear soundboard recordings and a semi-pro-shot film that are just as harsh.


There's a really great quote from one of the Dead C guys, where he says something along the lines of: "We're not lo-fi - those are good fidelity recordings of an incredibly crappy sound."

If you want totally blown-out Japanese fuzz rock, surely High Rise is the place to go:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmkt5P_cfk

craner
20-05-2013, 03:23 PM
I am anti-fuzz.

Mr. Tea
20-05-2013, 04:53 PM
Yeah, it's kinda antithetical to blazer-clad yacht-disco.

padraig (u.s.)
20-05-2013, 06:20 PM
Mainly the psych stuff

dunno why I even asked, guess I wasn't clear if you just wanted any music that was fuzzy or "fuzz" specifically. cos anything can have the quality of fuzziness whereas "fuzz" clearly denotes specific musics ca. 66-73 or so and later revivals of those musics. speaking of which, some things posted here are not only not fuzz, they're not even fuzzy. Sunn O))) ain't fuzzy (neither is Earth or any of that). I love the Groundhogs but Tony McPhee, not fuzzy. and MBV, or any shoegaze. the crystal clear distortion layers of shoegaze is the polar opposite of filthy fuzz distortion.

not that I want to be the fuzz police. I'm just saying. meanwhile, here is more actual fuzz

the cover of this LP is an anthropomorphic blueberry pancake run amok in a diner, which is awesome
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the rest of the this record is merely OK but this delivers the goods
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proto-metal satanic fuzz! unlike Coven (hugely overrated 3rd-rate psychedelia w/occultsploitation trappings) this kicks ass
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another case where the rest of the record unfortunately really blows besides this one jam
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padraig (u.s.)
20-05-2013, 06:28 PM
that vulcan record is cool, in terry brooks + strange territory, but the king of semi-outsider "I'm just a guy in a basement w/an unquenchable thirst for facemelting acid guitar" dudes is def randy holden

I should note that Parasites of the Western World isn't really fuzz either, neither is Chrome or the Electric Eels or any ise damaged lo fi provinicial american prepostpunk kind of thing. they're a different thing from fuzz.


I am anti-fuzz.

that's ok, fuzz is anti-craner. the only things I trust your opinions on are 2-step and Central Asia anyway.

padraig (u.s.)
20-05-2013, 06:37 PM
one more bonus. mountain is more post-cream, sludgy, power trio kind of density than fuzz but:

this has that gluey fuzzed 70s bass (see: ted nugent - stranglehold) and the guitars just go on + fuckin on + on. they just wear you down. it's like if early ash ra tempel had decided to abandon kosmiche in favor of playing 32 minute covers of sunshine of your love
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craner
21-05-2013, 01:11 PM
that's ok, fuzz is anti-craner. the only things I trust your opinions on are 2-step and Central Asia anyway.

Erm, I don't really know very much about 2-step.

Fuzz indicates, to me, a lack of ambition and imagination, unlike blazer-clad yacht-disco which is packed with ambition and imagination. (For example, how will I ever be able to afford my own yacht? I wonder which blazer will match these shoes?)

bassbeyondreason
22-05-2013, 06:03 PM
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1967. Fuck Blue Cheer. Fuck "Sister Ray".

padraig (u.s.)
27-05-2013, 12:44 PM
Erm, I don't really know very much about 2-step

it's not your encyclopedic knowledge, it's the passion and erudition that 2-step moves you to. I'll take that over record collector nerdiness any day.

otoh if you can't see the imagination of longhair freaks playing lysergic face melting guitars in psychic defense against the sucking abyssal void of modern life that's your loss

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bobby liebling has always claimed pentagram was more inspired by blue cheer than sabbath and I believe him
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this one especially for rich
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undoubtedly the rockingest psychedelic oud fuzz of all time
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IdleRich
27-05-2013, 02:21 PM
OK, this On The Road South is cool, you're right.
Heard the Berberian stuff before at DannyL's house, still great though obviously.

Mr. Tea
19-08-2013, 03:26 PM
Holy fuzzing fuck! Just found this on YT about eight clicks on from Ron Wray:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqr_b1e9pw&feature=player_detailpage

I mean...just, Jesus.

padraig (u.s.)
15-02-2014, 06:22 PM
I decided every Friday until further notice I'm going to put up 2 selections from my ongoing forays in to the diverse and tremulous galaxies of fuzz, in the general interest of furthering fuzz appreciation. b/c imagination is overrated I will call it Fuzz Friday. today is Saturday but I forgot yesterday and I don't want to wait a week, so, to start:

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wind tunnel sounding fuzz from Normandy. great drummer.

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this is like that Pierre Henry/Spooky Tooth record if instead of sucking it was fucking awesome (ffwd to 1:20 for beginning of actual fuzz as opposed to just thudding white noise also cool tho)

not all selections will be from the late 60s but these both are

IdleRich
17-02-2014, 04:27 PM
I know the record you mean. It should be good and it isn't. Will check this now hoping for what that could have been.

padraig (u.s.)
17-02-2014, 11:26 PM
the Henry/Spooky Tooth thing is a good idea w/terrible execution (also that Spooky Tooth was the kind of lame generic blues rock that late 60s England was awash with doesn't help). I've found a lot of those lauded experimental late 60s records - Cromagnon, United States of America, 50 Foot Hose, even Silver Apples - to be badly overrated and disappointing but the whole Spoils of War LP is fucking great. the best song is "Now Is Made In America" but it's not really fuzz so I didn't choose it.

IdleRich
18-02-2014, 01:16 PM
I love Silver Apples and pretty much love the USA too but I've never been able to get on with Fifty ft Hose somehow except for a few songs. I honestly think Silver Apples are THAT good though. Hard to judge after years and years of hype and whatnot though I guess.

padraig (u.s.)
24-02-2014, 06:28 PM
Fuzz Fridays #2, albeit on a Monday

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acid punks travel backward in time to inflict terribly recorded shambling sub-Jimi rusty razor blade shreddage onto England ca 1971

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1st Stooges LP meets garage rock vibe. also, the cover is them dressed in black point guns at you.

padraig (u.s.)
24-02-2014, 06:40 PM
also @Rich - I mean I respect the Silver Apples, it just doesn't move me. and there are numerous better early electronic records, better late 60s weirdo freakout records, whatever. The Beat of the Earth, Amon Duul I, Parson Sound, Church of Anthrax, Don Bradshaw-Leather, on and on, are all stuff I'd put way over Silver Apples. clearly, ymmv. if you're interested there is a amazing, unfortunately super obscure record by this duo Madrigal (http://www.discogs.com/Madrigal-Madrigal/release/3246571) from 1971, kind of like if Silver Apples did stoned psych folk.

IdleRich
26-02-2014, 07:15 AM
The ones I've heard from that list I like but they're not so forward thinking as Silver Apples. That Madrigal sounds really interesting though, I will check it out if I can without paying five thousand dollars for the original...

connect_icut
09-03-2014, 12:20 AM
[ aquarius records new arrivals list #445.5 - FUZZZ!!! ]

http://www.aquariusrecords.org/cat/4455.html