Underwater Dancehall

[mms]

Dubstep vs. International Booty Bass :: Stoics vs. Epicureans

very english dread bass vs international language of booty meets bassline - to generalise.

 

[redcrescent]

French-speaking Africans/Islanders

Trinidadians speak English tho'.

 

[mms]

Trinidadians speak English tho'.

and spanish - kids learn spanish at school now over english there.

 

[nomadologist]

nuh uh. French.

 

[dubble-u-c]

Huh, interesting. One of my doctors is Egyptian and he sees mostly French-speaking Africans/Islanders besides me. This vocalist doesn't sound Trinidadian to me at all.

nuh uh. French.

Umm....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinidad_and_Tobago


Official languages: English

 

[mms]

nuh uh. French.

nah french is spoken in st lucia, haiti, dominican islands etc, but trinidad its spanish, english and hindi too.

 

[noel emits]

No wonder the patois sounds odd.

 

[nomadologist]

Srsly. If you grow up speaking English, even in Trinidad, you shouldn't have THAT strong of an accent, should you? I mean, I could be wrong but...

 

[noel emits]

Srsly. If you grow up speaking English, even in Trinidad, you shouldn't have THAT strong of an accent, should you? I mean, I could be wrong but...

People accentuate their ethnic accents sometimes for effect. Caribbeans do it - I'm sure Italian Americans do it too.

 

[dubble-u-c]

Srsly. If you grow up speaking English, even in Trinidad, you shouldn't have THAT strong of an accent, should you? I mean, I could be wrong but...

You are wrong ... just admit it

 

[nomadologist]

People accentuate their ethnic accents sometimes for effect. Caribbeans do it - I'm sure Italian Americans do it too.

Heh, no, I don't say "yous guys" or anything like that.

I think it's at least partially an affectation, sorry!! Do forgive me.

 

[redcrescent]

But of all de special talents dat we Trinis possess, Is de way we talk dat ranks us among de best.
Classic bit of rhyming text on Trini speakhere.

No wonder the patois sounds odd.

Maybe if calypso, soca, chutney and all the rest were as well-known as Jamaican music it might not sound so odd.

 

[noel emits]

Maybe if calypso, soca, chutney and all the rest were as well-known as Jamaican music it might not sound so odd.

Well I'm quite aware of all those things, but I haven't heard this album or Juakali and was just referring in a jokey way to nomadologist thinking it sounded weird or fake. For the record.

 

[redcrescent]

Well I'm quite aware of all those things, but I haven't heard this album or Juakali and was just referring in a jokey way to nomadologist thinking it sounded weird or fake. For the record.

I just meant it in a general way, that's all. Apologies for not having caught the gist of your remark but it's terribly difficult to get nuances or tone across on a message board without recurring to smilies!

Unrelated, but this makes me think of some German-speaking MCs I know that can do flawless patois on the mic but otherwise can't string together a sentence in proper English. Jamaica is one VERY LOUD island indeed.

 

[elgato]

Dubstep vs. International Booty Bass :: Stoics vs. Epicureans

lol that is good. so dissensian, so good

lots of great stuff from Gavin and Gek, thoroughly enjoyed reading through

 

[zhao]

i briefly dated a girl from Barbados/England once, and she had THE sexiest accent EVER. (yes I'm obsessed. call the police)

Dubstep vs. International Booty Bass :: Stoics vs. Epicureans

the forces of MU versus the illuminatus.

I believe the magic happens when they are mixed together

I'm totally down with that. as much as I am dubstep and techno bashing in this thread please do keep in mind that I've loved this stuff for many years. and one of the things on my to do list is a proper set mixing the 2 together. love the arabic samples in Shakleton...

 

[nomadologist]

whatever, everyone's tastes shift sometimes. if mine never had, i would still be listening to 4AD records releases exclusively like I did as a 13-year-old. it's an important part of the creative process.

 

[nomadologist]

But of all de special talents dat we Trinis possess, Is de way we talk dat ranks us among de best.
Classic bit of rhyming text on Trini speakhere.


Maybe if calypso, soca, chutney and all the rest were as well-known as Jamaican music it might not sound so odd.

Never heard of soca or chutney--what are these?

 

[Gavin]

Never heard of soca or chutney--what are these?

Soca = soul calypso, sort of like the digi-dancehall version of calypso, and it is taking the fuck over. Dancehall has been really influenced by it in the past few years, ratcheting up the tempo. Really really uptempo, upbeat... you have probably heard it in NYC but didn't know it. The patois sounds pretty Jamaican to these gringo ears.

Chutney is... I dunno, soca&reggae mixed with bhangra? It is also a delicious sauce for samosas. Brit colonials took Indians with them everywhere giving us delicious hybrid mixtures of music. Also Jamaican curry. All my kwaito is from a South African guy who is ethnically Indian; his family had been there 6 generations though.

Every Caribbean island has its own style, but they are incredibly promiscuous, borrowing and remixing and inspiring each other. Zouk on St. Martinique, Kompa in Haiti... I have some dancehall song labeled "St. Lucia refix" but it seems like a run-of-the-mill reggae-style mashup.

 

[zhao]

don't know about chutney (other than the spices indians put on everything) but soca is trinidad dancehall. usually very bright and sunny, just the happiest music ever most of it is actually too happy for even me :slanted: but there is this superb kinda moody track offa Soca Rebels which goes "Africa is burning... and the black man here... is doing the freak". WICKED. I'll dig it up for you tomorrow.