IdleRich

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Blimey though - Man City are out of control. You have to wonder why they didn't buy the club a bit earlier though so that they actually had time to pull off a few of these wildly ambitious transfers. Lucky for everyone else that the only one they've managed is Robinho who I doubt will make too much of an impression on the premiership. Then again, splashing 100m on big names in a rush isn't normally the best way to build a decent side.
 

hucks

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Blimey though - Man City are out of control. You have to wonder why they didn't buy the club a bit earlier though so that they actually had time to pull off a few of these wildly ambitious transfers. Lucky for everyone else that the only one they've managed is Robinho who I doubt will make too much of an impression on the premiership. Then again, splashing 100m on big names in a rush isn't normally the best way to build a decent side.

I should think the first effect will be another huge bout of transfer fee inflation, much as when Abramovich took over at Chelsea. Bad news for big teams on a budget - basically Liverpool.
 

mos dan

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there's no acronym about rolling on the floor and laughing one's arse off that is strong enough for a joke that good. nomos, take a bow.

i got in from the pub last night to find my housemates* GLUED to sky sports news, hilarious scenes with the channel's minute by minute countdown and reporters 'in the field' being mobbed by man city fans singing 'we've got robinho, we've got robinho' etc. loving the soap opera aspect... i welcome city's mad spending. if they can almost fuck up man u and chelsea's transfer plans then bring it on i say. i mean, with abramovich we already have this ethic in premiership football, so i don't think anyone can complain about more multi billion £ buy-outs.

*said housemates, both arsenal fans, were disappointed not to get alonso. or anyone else. calling for wenger's head is ridiculous though, as i think some fans have been.
 

crackerjack

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Blimey though - Man City are out of control. You have to wonder why they didn't buy the club a bit earlier though so that they actually had time to pull off a few of these wildly ambitious transfers. Lucky for everyone else that the only one they've managed is Robinho who I doubt will make too much of an impression on the premiership. Then again, splashing 100m on big names in a rush isn't normally the best way to build a decent side.

Presumably they didn't actually want all those players they were linked with - most of them play in the same position - and this was a way of announcing their arrival rather than a serious stab at team-building. That and getting Utd to spunk up another £5m on Berbatov, which won't do their popularity with their new fans any harm.
 

mos dan

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getting Utd to spunk up another £5m on Berbatov, which won't do their popularity with their new fans any harm.

i was happy about that too. is it a myth that everyone in manchester supports city and all the united fans live outside, rich? i'm assuming you're going to say yes ;)
 

crackerjack

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i was happy about that too. is it a myth that everyone in manchester supports city and all the united fans live outside, rich? i'm assuming you're going to say yes ;)

Sadly it is a myth, yes, and the otherwise fine city of manchester is crawling with the bastards.
There was a lot more of them once they started winning things again though - blue til 92, as the saying goes.
 

IdleRich

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"i was happy about that too. is it a myth that everyone in manchester supports city and all the united fans live outside, rich? i'm assuming you're going to say yes"
How would I know, I was born in Swindon?
Of course that myth feels as though it's true 'cause the ratio of City to Manchester fans is much closer in Manchester than it is anywhere in the world, ie in Manchester there are thousands of each, outside Manchester there are countless millions of United fans and approximately four people who support City.
 

crackerjack

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The radio is assuming it's done and KK is flouncing again. Can't say i blame him. Ashley's a knob who appointed the wrong manager to curry favour, then made it very obvious he realised he had, like Gob Bluth, made a terrible mistake.

That said, £12m for Milner seems like good business, he tried (but failed) to offload Barton, any chairman who doesn't worry about Owen's injury record is insane and they've signed Gutierrez, who looks brilliant.
 

nomos

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take a bow.
thank you. thank you. it was my greatest achievement yesterday :D (which is also sad in a way). i'm a bit disappointed that arsenal didn't get xabi or pull off a surprise swoop for yaya toure. knowing arsene though, he probably put that £30m from the board into the stadium mortgage, or 30 promising 17-year olds.
 

crackerjack

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I should think the first effect will be another huge bout of transfer fee inflation, much as when Abramovich took over at Chelsea. Bad news for big teams on a budget - basically Liverpool.

Hard to imagine them getting screwed worse than they already have been on the Keane deal.
 

IdleRich

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As a matter of interest, why is it English teams that are so frequently the target of foreign billionaires? Is it because the regulations on ownership here are less restrictive or what? Can't see that football has been particularly lucrative for most of the people who have come flying in either so what's the attraction? Is it cheaper to buy Manchester City and turn them into world beaters than it would be to do the same with, I don't know, Lazio?
 

crackerjack

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As a matter of interest, why is it English teams that are so frequently the target of foreign billionaires? Is it because the regulations on ownership here are less restrictive or what? Can't see that football has been particularly lucrative for most of the people who have come flying in either so what's the attraction? Is it cheaper to buy Manchester City and turn them into world beaters than it would be to do the same with, I don't know, Lazio?

Global TV audience. Plus a bit of what you said about regulations - some of the big Spanish clubs have their exemplary democratic mechanisms and membership shares. Italian clubs are (or at least, were) owned by massive companies (Fiat f'rinstance) who see them as an extension of brand ego and prestige. Whereas big English clubs were owned until recently by butchers sons (Man Utd), catalogue salesmen (Liverpool) and ungentleman farmers (Chelsea).
 

mos dan

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As a matter of interest, why is it English teams that are so frequently the target of foreign billionaires? Is it because the regulations on ownership here are less restrictive or what? Can't see that football has been particularly lucrative for most of the people who have come flying in either so what's the attraction? Is it cheaper to buy Manchester City and turn them into world beaters than it would be to do the same with, I don't know, Lazio?

according to the piece i read in city a.m. (lol) on the bus this morning, revenue potential is higher, yes. sorry i can't really remember why.. global tv money and merch is generally greater for english clubs presumably. also the average attendances are generally better. also you can go to harrods and the king's road and participate in millionaire-friendly activities like polo.
 

IdleRich

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"Global TV audience"
Do you mean that's an explanation in that it provides an easier way to make money or do you just mean that people in Thailand/America/UAE etc watch the premiership more and when they buy a club they want one in the league that is broadcast at home?

"some of the big Spanish clubs have their exemplary democratic mechanisms and membership shares"
True, that's why I suggested an Italian side. Some of them are owned by individuals aren't they? AC Milan by Berlusconi, Inter by the Moratti family (although I can't imagine they will be selling up any time soon). Maybe a French club then, surely it would take less investment to get enough quality players to guarantee Champions League football in a country with a weaker league like that?
 

crackerjack

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Do you mean that's an explanation in that it provides an easier way to make money or do you just mean that people in Thailand/America/UAE etc watch the premiership more and when they buy a club they want one in the league that is broadcast at home?

I mostly meant the former, though the latter is a factor too - for someone with, say, Shinawatra's demagogic tendencies the attraction of a club his people had heard of must have been greater.

True, that's why I suggested an Italian side. Some of them are owned by individuals aren't they? AC Milan by Berlusconi, Inter by the Moratti family (although I can't imagine they will be selling up any time soon). Maybe a French club then, surely it would take less investment to get enough quality players to guarantee Champions League football in a country with a weaker league like that

French sides would certainly be cheap, but you'd be starting from scratch and it would be one hell of a risk. When I was a kid there was a fleeting moment when everyone was saying NY Cosmos would soon be the most popular team on earth. Man, did that hunch cost Steve Ross some moolah!
 

crackerjack

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Maybe a French club then, surely it would take less investment to get enough quality players to guarantee Champions League football in a country with a weaker league like that?

Sure, but the CL must be a minor percentage of income next to a weekly competition watched by millions at home and tens of millions (?) abroad.
 
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