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bandwagon house
Easy as it would be to blow a few hundred quid if you had it. A flick though boomkat can be fairly grim. The last decade has thrown up a lot of parallels in that where previously the MC came to dominate, it's now the producer. You can count on two hands the DJs who blew up on DJing alone and I think that goes some way towards accounting for the lack of momentum or excitement most of us regularly perceive to be absent.
Producers are baring the brunt of both hype and criticism because other parts of jigsaw have fallen away. Not extinct, obviously, but where people look or what leads or goes in and out between anthems. We would have once had DJs & Club(nights) shaping sounds along side the Studio but things appear to have narrowed and the balance is gone.
We've done a fair bit of moaning about about pastiche but when we talk about that lack of focus is it because we are looking in the wrong place? This is not longing back to a time before broadband. There is a still a Mancuso, Bambaataa, Slimzee, Hardy element that should be unshakable no? House, Headz, Garage, FWD, Niche. It's true that the tradition of you have to go there to hear that sound has been massively eroded but it's still absolutely foundational to the whole thing.
Tunes are built off the back of the Saturday night you're recovering from not one from two decades ago you stitch together on youtube.
Nails it. That period of beige 2step we're only beginning to shake. You had everyone biting Burial's drums as a thing itself rather then going to the source Burial was drawing from. Those fucking pitched vocals. It's producers looking at other producers. Always been the case but the counterweight of DJs has been lost. As far as there is ever a plan, do people still boot logic with that DJ or that club in mind? Or is so much of it 'no one could name what decade they’re from' as Blackdown ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶d̶r̶i̶v̶e̶n̶ pointed to last week.
Dubs were built for Larry, Hatcha, Fabio & Grooverider. Does it still happen or has the dynamic where you can be the DJ and only route to it is production washed all of it away? Does anyone even have a proper residency any more?
Haven't followed the Jackin/Shuffling threads closely but these (despite definitely being of their time) feel like they are closer to our own stamp on house rather then DJ driven leaps. Open to correction.
Listening to Pev & Kowton on Boiler room yesterday. Bristol seems better able to gel a sound then London in 2013. It's a lot closer to Detroit with a jungle current. There is rave(ecstasy) DNA still there that has been bred out of the London nuum.
Ben's Fabric mix. Clear lineage from the Hessle/Ruffage sound where now you're not sure if it's bringing fwd to house or vice versa but it's the best sensibilities of both. It can get broken and swung from pounding in a way that would have been more noticeable three years ago. Feels like proper progression rather then all the house remakes.
Down the BPMs Alex Nut, Om Unit, Eclair LuckyMe and all that dialog with LA etc. Easily the biggest scope for switch ups and variety. They have so much to draw for because even with an LP culture and monsters like Flylo it's still so DJ led. Rooted in the bits hiphop that didn't get cannibalised by MCs. Some of the most fertile music now.
Slackk's mixes are doing what Butterz did before. Lots of grime being eaten by trap but Slackk & Oil Gang mixes feel like United Vibes on a Sunday where you don't wanna see a tracklist or even play the tunes in isolation. Just enjoy the soup.
Champion & Formula feel like the last road music in London.
The bit of Nine's Rinse CD online ticks a lot of boxes in 20 minutes. To it's detriment if you're looking for a coherent kode9 sound but that's him. Always broader then the label output and it's better then trying some tired shit about creating a unique listing experience and all the other bollox that goes with commercial releases. Haven't seen him out for two years but Oneman's dark thing he talked about in the interview with Martin never really came through on radio. Just a mixing beast.
Footcrab, Work Them, IRL (usually in that order...Hyph Mngo to close things out) can push things along but Oneman/BokBok/BenUFO/Brackles were the catalyst around then. Joker & Guido nailed all the signifies from the off so nothing could really build. Crazy Cousinz endured but the magic was on Petchy's show you know.
We're fucked if club music falls into the rock thing where people are only known for their own music.
Producers are baring the brunt of both hype and criticism because other parts of jigsaw have fallen away. Not extinct, obviously, but where people look or what leads or goes in and out between anthems. We would have once had DJs & Club(nights) shaping sounds along side the Studio but things appear to have narrowed and the balance is gone.
We've done a fair bit of moaning about about pastiche but when we talk about that lack of focus is it because we are looking in the wrong place? This is not longing back to a time before broadband. There is a still a Mancuso, Bambaataa, Slimzee, Hardy element that should be unshakable no? House, Headz, Garage, FWD, Niche. It's true that the tradition of you have to go there to hear that sound has been massively eroded but it's still absolutely foundational to the whole thing.
Tunes are built off the back of the Saturday night you're recovering from not one from two decades ago you stitch together on youtube.
Slackk sez said:Wiley snare, big shot drums, youngstar bass, moody pad = random producer jumping on this grime
Nails it. That period of beige 2step we're only beginning to shake. You had everyone biting Burial's drums as a thing itself rather then going to the source Burial was drawing from. Those fucking pitched vocals. It's producers looking at other producers. Always been the case but the counterweight of DJs has been lost. As far as there is ever a plan, do people still boot logic with that DJ or that club in mind? Or is so much of it 'no one could name what decade they’re from' as Blackdown ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶d̶r̶i̶v̶e̶n̶ pointed to last week.
Dubs were built for Larry, Hatcha, Fabio & Grooverider. Does it still happen or has the dynamic where you can be the DJ and only route to it is production washed all of it away? Does anyone even have a proper residency any more?
Haven't followed the Jackin/Shuffling threads closely but these (despite definitely being of their time) feel like they are closer to our own stamp on house rather then DJ driven leaps. Open to correction.
Listening to Pev & Kowton on Boiler room yesterday. Bristol seems better able to gel a sound then London in 2013. It's a lot closer to Detroit with a jungle current. There is rave(ecstasy) DNA still there that has been bred out of the London nuum.
Ben's Fabric mix. Clear lineage from the Hessle/Ruffage sound where now you're not sure if it's bringing fwd to house or vice versa but it's the best sensibilities of both. It can get broken and swung from pounding in a way that would have been more noticeable three years ago. Feels like proper progression rather then all the house remakes.
Down the BPMs Alex Nut, Om Unit, Eclair LuckyMe and all that dialog with LA etc. Easily the biggest scope for switch ups and variety. They have so much to draw for because even with an LP culture and monsters like Flylo it's still so DJ led. Rooted in the bits hiphop that didn't get cannibalised by MCs. Some of the most fertile music now.
Slackk's mixes are doing what Butterz did before. Lots of grime being eaten by trap but Slackk & Oil Gang mixes feel like United Vibes on a Sunday where you don't wanna see a tracklist or even play the tunes in isolation. Just enjoy the soup.
Champion & Formula feel like the last road music in London.
The bit of Nine's Rinse CD online ticks a lot of boxes in 20 minutes. To it's detriment if you're looking for a coherent kode9 sound but that's him. Always broader then the label output and it's better then trying some tired shit about creating a unique listing experience and all the other bollox that goes with commercial releases. Haven't seen him out for two years but Oneman's dark thing he talked about in the interview with Martin never really came through on radio. Just a mixing beast.
Footcrab, Work Them, IRL (usually in that order...Hyph Mngo to close things out) can push things along but Oneman/BokBok/BenUFO/Brackles were the catalyst around then. Joker & Guido nailed all the signifies from the off so nothing could really build. Crazy Cousinz endured but the magic was on Petchy's show you know.
We're fucked if club music falls into the rock thing where people are only known for their own music.