Mr. Tea
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Of course, but I meant what people think they stand for.
"Prosperity" or "freedom" or "law and order" or somesuch horseshit, I suppose.
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"Prosperity" or "freedom" or "law and order" or somesuch horseshit, I suppose.
Sure. the difference with labour (at least nowadays) is they stand for nothing in practical terms whilst expending a lot of word salad to try and make themselves out to stand for something .. else. It's why Starmer will not win in 2023-24.
A year into his Labour leadership, how is Keir Starmer performing?
The Labour leader’s personal numbers are better than Ed Miliband's or Jeremy Corbyn's were a year in, but he is yet to make a real impact.
www.newstatesman.com
The above might be a bit of choker for DIssensus. Doesn't mention the upcoming byelection which is going to be interesting. I just had a quick look at the odds, not much in it (in my v cursory check). 4/6 - Lab, 11/10 Tory.
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It feels more and more like the 80's, except this man who'd slide off a chair can't even assassinate an open target like the official version of the govt's Covid response. I'd give good odds on late summer rioting
The British are self-sabotaging twats at times. It's either get drunk and fling a pub chair Millwall style then go home and sleep it off, or get exploited repeatedly. At least the French know how to strike
The British are self-sabotaging twats at times. It's either get drunk and fling a pub chair Millwall style then go home and sleep it off, or get exploited repeatedly. At least the French know how to strike
A year into his Labour leadership, how is Keir Starmer performing?
The Labour leader’s personal numbers are better than Ed Miliband's or Jeremy Corbyn's were a year in, but he is yet to make a real impact.
The above might be a bit of choker for DIssensus. Doesn't mention the upcoming byelection which is going to be interesting. I just had a quick look at the odds, not much in it (in my v cursory check). 4/6 - Lab, 11/10 Tory.
Not sure how it is a choker mate. The author himself admits that what he's offering is nothing but a supposition that people will want party leaders to play politics after the lockdown. That is a big if.
And the all important bit is here:
and of course
memories of Nate Silver's data science tyranny in the US elections last year, which, to be fair, was informative but far too inflated.
I do think Long Kesh Stoner has a chance, but the issue is now he's going to have to become a technocratic brexiteer (I.E: a remainer in all but name) which is never going to satisfy the trade union aristocracy he intends to court (like corbyn, funnily enough) - mcklusky will only be satisfied with the most thoroughgoing nativism and protectionism that the average working class tory would recoil from.
The problem is not that the labour party is ideologically dead, which is what people tend to focus on to a dangerous degree. The point is its mechanical structures are undergoing ossification. Ideologies, from the most progressive to the most reactionary are always out of date with the material present, otherwise they wouldn't be ideologies per se. Which is what I was trying to communicate to Wild Greens earlier this week, but I probably made a mess out of it.
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Mr. Tea
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It's pretty sobering that "55 per cent [of 'red wall' Labour/ex-Labour voters] agree that Labour has played party politics during the pandemic", if that means "criticizing the government", which I think it probably does. Because failing to do that enough is one of Starmer's commonest criticisms from middle-class leftists.
Perhaps just another example of the bind Labour are in, in terms of their potential vote share being split between constituencies that have almost no ideology in common any more.
Perhaps just another example of the bind Labour are in, in terms of their potential vote share being split between constituencies that have almost no ideology in common any more.
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I think the main problem is people just don't like Labour and work backward from there.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
If we had PR then the thing to do would be for Labour to split into at least two, and perhaps three, parties, that might then be able to find enough common ground to rule as a coalition.
As it is, that would obviously guarantee Tory majorities until the end of time.
As it is, that would obviously guarantee Tory majorities until the end of time.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
This seems potentially significant - Labour look likely oppose the vaccine certificates, and there's enough discontent with it on the Tory benches that the government could lose the vote.
www.theguardian.com
Labour opposed to 'discriminatory' and 'confusing' Covid status certificates
Shadow health secretary says ‘unfair’ vaccine document plan has not been clearly explained
www.theguardian.com
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I don't fight, I run away
That the UK media coverage of Meghan was not racist.
Daily Fail story saying the opposite: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Ps-misjudging-publics-mood-Meghan-claims.html
Golly, it's almost as if people are projecting prepackaged opinions onto him or something.
Golly, it's almost as if people are projecting prepackaged opinions onto him or something.
Asked if he would describe Meghan Markle’s treatment in the mainstream press as “racist”, Keir Starmer says “I wouldn’t.” https://t.co/sLzo9nFoQe