Wuhan Killer Sneeze (thanks Tea)

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mixed_biscuits

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Fingers crossed that:

a) Trump doesn't mention it
b) some animal isn't found to drink it
c) definitive studies aren't forever postponed to create academic makework
 
Mr. Tea

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mixed_biscuits said:
Shows the due diligence - or lack of it - brought to bear by the hacks.
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So fucking what? If you were at all interested in the data, you could find it easily enough on the ONS website. I have no interest in defending the Indy per se.

The funny thing here is that the error you're banging on about is a simple typo in the denominator of both death rates. Which means you implicitly accept that being fully vaccinated reduces your chances of being killed by the virus by 97%, compared to being unvaccinated.

Finally, we're on the same page! You've seen the light! Congratulations!
 
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Mr. Tea said:
So fucking what? If you were at all interested in the data, you could find it easily enough on the ONS website. I have no interest in defending the Indy per se.

The funny thing here is that the error you're banging on about is a simple typo in the denominator of both death rates. Which means you implicitly accept that being fully vaccinated reduces your chances of being killed by the virus by 97%, compared to being unvaccinated.

Finally, we're on the same page! You've seen the light! Congratulations!
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I would love to have a link to the original study as GUESS WHAT - as well as making out the base fatality rate is 100 times too great - they don't provide any link either!
 
Mr. Tea

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mixed_biscuits said:
I would love to have a link to the original study as GUESS WHAT - as well as making out the base fatality rate is 100 times too great - they don't provide any link either!
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Well since you've apparently forgotten how to use Google, and since I'm an exceptionally kind person...

Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics

Weekly age-standardised mortality rates and age-specific rates for deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status; deaths occurring between 2 January and 24 September 2021 in England.
www.ons.gov.uk

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mixed_biscuits

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Now, we know that the CDC ascertains COVID differently for vaccinees and non-vaccinees (it needs to be specifically symptomatic for the former); I wonder if the UK does the same...
 
Mr. Tea

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mixed_biscuits said:
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/measuring-vaccine-efficacy-from-population-data/
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From ONS:

Because vaccinations were being offered according to priority groups set out by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), the characteristics of the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations are changing over time. To account for differences in population size and age structure of the vaccination status groups over time, we calculated age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) (Figure 1) using the Public Health Data Asset (PHDA) dataset.
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Tl,dr; ONS statisticians are not complete idiots and have already taken these factors into account.
 
Mr. Tea

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For a year and a half now, you've been making these ever more ridiculous demands on any research that undermines your anti-vaccine prejudice, setting the bar a little higher each time because you know full well there that no amount and quality of evidence could ever possibly make you admit you were wrong, while leaping on anything that appears to back you up, even if the quality of the science is sub-GSCE, as in the case of that unpublished, unreviewed, half-arsed survey from Peru.
 
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I mean, if there really were some vast evil conspiracy to trick us all into taking vaccines for whatever reason, I would expect it would be the vaccine companies that would be the guilty parties in terms of falsifying results, not the ONS.
 
mixed_biscuits

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Mr. Tea said:
I mean, if there really were some vast evil conspiracy to trick us all into taking vaccines for whatever reason, I would expect it would be the vaccine companies that would be the guilty parties in terms of falsifying results, not the ONS.
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ONS probably under political pressure to make the vax look good.
 
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