Are you a luddite?
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Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
You're right I'm really just talking to myself here.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
But Robert Solow may be of interest, in terms of understanding how this argument of tech-driven capitalism has become, implicitly or explicitly, an almost metaphysically teleological theory.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
And there are obviously examples of tech development that seem to show no concern for quality of life, or else don that argument in bad faith as Amazon did regarding disability rights.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
If I were to make a metaphysical teleological argument for technocapitalism now, it would be in the conceptual vein of negative entropy, of systems becoming more and more efficient in terms of resource management and energy expenditure, reducing largely to the health and nutrition of bioenergetic subsystems like us humans.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Because I know you all were just dying to know!
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Utopian anti-capitalism is to be cherished, in a sense, because it is the product of a collective imagination that sees even better possibilities for society, an imagination that is largely the product and consequent of the current state of affairs, it would seem.
This is like asking if someone's into weapons, beyond guns and blades.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Strikes me as reductio ad absurdum, to reduce technological innovation down to ill intent, but maybe I am missing something.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Yeah it is an often unfortunate effect this kind of discourse spewing has.
That's what you were doing though. You picked the two primary tools for doing basically anything in this world and asked for ill intent that didn't fall within favouring either of them.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
One way I am chronically foolish is that I keep directing these capitalist apologias into channels of a more or less expilicitly anti-capitalist milieu, which admittedly I do find a bit amusing.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
I meant to ask for pro-tech and pro-capital approaches that weren't just ill-intent.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
As opposed to reducing all pro-tech and pro-capital to ill intent.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
As in, the areas of pro-tech and pro-capital that don't overlap with the area of ill intent.
I think, beyond a certain point, intent perhaps becomes irrelevant. An ordinary person setting up a small business to support themselves and because they believe in it is pro-capital and well-intentioned. Once you've got the kind of resources someone trying this top down tech stuff has then it doesn't really matter whether you think you're trying to help as you're forcing yourself on millions of people and other forms of life and you're not infallible enough to have that kind of influence.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
Yeah I'd agree with that, that at a certain scale of operations a single person's scope and intention almost invariably fails to account for nth-order consequences of their decisions. And I think we will be suffering from these things more or less indefinitely.