Detroit - the myth

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raljax

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Blueprint Surface Meta all kept things interesting in that late 90s period as Beyer and those guys slowly seemed to lose the plot and Drum Code became more and more identikit and then weirdly more and more popular.
 
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raljax

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By nye 99 it was very interesting to hear what techno djs played from the decade. I was at a David Holmes - Andrew Weatherall ' techno sets' night and it was dominated by stuff up until about '96... Stuff like Lyot remix. It was actually difficult to spot anything from later in the decade. I guess loopy dj tools don't stand out as much and it's up to the dj to make these meaningful.
 
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the ig

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yeah and the brum chaps into late 90s for me, again to cherry-pick, but lots of great stuff there.

my scene was turning mnml by ‘02 or so, cologne labels like traum, trapez, substatic. unfeasibly dull crap that I liked for about 10 mins. plus lots of kompakt speicher and sender.

competent but samey-samey is the first pitfall of djing, funny how so many techno djs fall right into it. tools are tools that‘s cool but u need to run them through some richer material also imo.
 
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raljax

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One trap is focusing on the technicalities of mixing so much the music becomes almost incidental - I often think that all djing falls within 2 axis - shit music to brilliant music and shit mixing to brilliant mixing... Stating the obvious there but imo the quality of the music usually trumps how great the mixing is. The shift to boring mnml and djs who seemed to be basically cue up atosynced tracks before that type of mixer became the norm and dance floors were are in serious bother. I never bought the whole ' this mnml is designed for the k hole' thing or even worse ' it's great wen ur in a k hole', like accidentally.
Was listening to a Surgeon Tresor mix from 08 last night and it illustrateshow all wasn't lost. He was cutting in and out of Beltram ' The Start it Up' with some polyrhytmic belter I don't know and it sounds so fresh. BTW I really think the techno scene hauled itself out of that mire around 2015.
 
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thirdform

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raljax said:
One trap is focusing on the technicalities of mixing so much the music becomes almost incidental - I often think that all djing falls within 2 axis - shit music to brilliant music and shit mixing to brilliant mixing... Stating the obvious there but imo the quality of the music usually trumps how great the mixing is. The shift to boring mnml and djs who seemed to be basically cue up atosynced tracks before that type of mixer became the norm and dance floors were are in serious bother. I never bought the whole ' this mnml is designed for the k hole' thing or even worse ' it's great wen ur in a k hole', like accidentally.
Was listening to a Surgeon Tresor mix from 08 last night and it illustrateshow all wasn't lost. He was cutting in and out of Beltram ' The Start it Up' with some polyrhytmic belter I don't know and it sounds so fresh. BTW I really think the techno scene hauled itself out of that mire around 2015.
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I'd say prog house invented the seemless mix way before minimal. Minimal sets in the old rob hood style are still visceral as fuck.
 
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thirdform

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of course, the definition of what constitutes funk by those proggy trancey lot is absolutely ghastly! It's like, wild cherry 3 note bassline overload. Someone like Surgeon, despite not citing that much classic funk as an influence is funky as fuck because he understands the rhythmic ritual aspects of funk. James Brown knew the score when he wanted to be a sex machine.
 
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woops said:
I thought it meant dirt
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Which can also insinuate sex. Interchangable innit. Can also mean stink.

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Dance Music

Dance music is music composed, played, or both, specifically to accompany dancing. It can be either the whole musical piece or part of a larger musical arrangement. Dance music works usually bear the name of the corresponding dance, e.g. waltzes, the tango, the bolero, the can-can, minuets...
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thirdform

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there are some interesting contradictions there. marrying this very raunchy sex music with the distant throb of a cyborgs body devoid of all human sensations.

 
mvuent

mvuent

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It’s sad because you want to see the originators finally get their due credit (except for Derrick May) but they’re diminished. More and more lost and out of sync with zeitgeist through the years post y2k.
 
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pattycakes_

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Things come and go.

But what are you getting at here, @mvuent? What does that video have to do with it? What other things have brought you to this conclusion? Why now?
 
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mvuent

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The obsolescence of vision also essentially applies to autechre but somehow they’ve remained relevant through sheer sustained or arguably even increased creative fire.
 
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