Battle Rap

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It had a place not just as competition but also in terms of showing off new bars you worked on in private,improvising and in the possibility that maybe a label rep or a famous name in rap happened to be there it might get their attention and net you a deal if you impressed them enough

this stuff is its own world and they might net themselves a feature or a radio freestyle spot its not like it's getting them out of that ghetto, they're just stuck doing that

 

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Last one I can think of who netted any real attention and not just in a "he's good for a battle rapper" way was Loaded Lux cause he had a swagger to him that wasn't just gun bars and doing " evil wizard of rhymes" dork shit that Disaster does or through trolling like Daylyt

If this was 1998 he probably would've been the kind of rapper who had some amazing freestyles on mixtape that resulted in him getting a deal and putting out a disappointing album that didn't play to his strengths

 

[pattycakes_]

@WebEschatology what do you think of Eminem?

 

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and it's especially funny to think on how when you look at rappers out of Michigan who regardless of what they're rapping about at its core its just punchlines rap those guys have mastered a specific kind of word economy, the punchline is the entire joke and you get that joke across say 4 bars

none of those guys on Don't fool are doing that, and it's funny to me how the people who love punchline rap the most aren't fans of battle rap at all

 

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@WebEschatology what do you think of Eminem?

Oh God patty do you really want me to answer this? REALLY? I feel like I've voiced my thoughts on Eminem already in some way of another

 

[luka]

webbie looooooves eminem and he loves his sons, tyler and kendrick and all the others

 

[pattycakes_]

Oh God patty do you really want me to answer this? REALLY? I feel like I've voiced my thoughts on Eminem already in some way of another

Yes I do, it's important. Thoroughly as possible

 

[rubberdingyrapids]

eminem made prob the greatest rapper biopic of anyone (which had some great battle scenes).

 

[Corpsey]

I remember watching some of these back in 2010 or something when I had a mate who was into them

Some of them were pretty funny if you like immature jokes about people being fat/bald/american/british/black/white etc.

And I was impressed by the wit and complex structures of the lyrics etc

But most of these guys couldn't record a decent song to save their lives

It's an interesting thing cos it's somewhat divorced from music – except that acapella rapping of course has its own musicality to it, the musicality of poetry and spoken word

 

[luka]

you should tell us more about your battle rap career as an online 'keystyler' Jack

 

[Corpsey]

It's funny all that cos i remember getting hold of cool edit and recording a freestyle over shook ones pt 2

and realising that my lyrics couldn't possibly be rapped outloud and on beat

 

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Yes I do, it's important. Thoroughly as possible

I mean i don't know what to say at this point about him because like a few other musicians who reached his level of stardom he became more symbol than rapper and the way he's talked about now reflects that. He started out rapping like AZ then moved into Jersey and rolled with the Outsidaz (young zee,pacewon,rah digga) and by way of ripping off them and Cage he made the Slim Shady persona

The secret to his style and some of these guys is that their flows emphasise cadence more than anything,he always was a overwriting rapper but at a certain point he turned into everything people STILL mock about underground rap from that era

 

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If you want my honest opinion on him at best I'm ambivalent but do I want to listen to any of the music he's listened to in the last 5 years fuck no, you see videos on YouTube where people are like "remember that time Eminem rapper backwards or made up words and that's why he's the goat?" But it's all gimmicky shit it doesn't add anything to the music

And if you're somebody whose idea of rap or what they want out of rap is just the technical shit over all other aspects that make a "good" rapper, by all means enjoy but by that logic you might as well book yourself a ticket to see Hamilton

 

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I remember watching some of these back in 2010 or something when I had a mate who was into them

Some of them were pretty funny if you like immature jokes about people being fat/bald/american/british/black/white etc.

And I was impressed by the wit and complex structures of the lyrics etc

But most of these guys couldn't record a decent song to save their lives

It's an interesting thing cos it's somewhat divorced from music – except that acapella rapping of course has its own musicality to it, the musicality of poetry and spoken word

Yeah the musicality of a cat being electrocuted

 

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Who is your favourite rapper web?

 

[pattycakes_]

Tnx @WebEschatology

If you want my honest opinion on him at best I'm ambivalent but do I want to listen to any of the music he's listened to in the last 5 years fuck no, you see videos on YouTube where people are like "remember that time Eminem rapper backwards or made up words and that's why he's the goat?" But it's all gimmicky shit it doesn't add anything to the music

And if you're somebody whose idea of rap or what they want out of rap is just the technical shit over all other aspects that make a "good" rapper, by all means enjoy but by that logic you might as well book yourself a ticket to see Hamilton

Yeah it's kind of like metal nowadays (another beyond parody of itself) All that's left to do is pyrotechnics. Play everything as fast and precise as possible. Yawn

If I could wipe one musicians existence and influence from rap and maybe culture in general it would be eminem. I have a theory that in order for Dre to become what he has he had to do a deal with the devil and bring eminem into the world and have everybody believe he's the goat. In fact that's the only logical explanation for what's happened.

 

[Corpsey]

What because the music Dre made prior to that was so socially progressive?

 

[pattycakes_]

Obviously

 

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See @pattycakes_ and this is EXACTLY what I just said about him being more of a symbol than as a rapper you're not responding to him as a person it's more to do with in your eyes what he did to rap and rap culture of could've been any other white boy rapper with a "sick" sense of humour rap isn't lacking in them

wouldn't surprise me if the next generation of rap listeners embrace him wholesale because the previous 2 exhausted all there is to say about how awful he is in such a melodramatic fashion

Eminem bashing is so boring now

 

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Especially because some of them know he was to them getting into rap was the Beastie Boys were to their parents and cause the rappers they like now have said stuff either as bad or worse