Aging ("Ageing," to the obsolete)

[pattycakes_]

@suspended which cultural artifacts, historic events, works of art etc do you expect you'll be looking back at with nostalgia from the last 20 years when it's your turn to be old?

 

[WashYourHands]

Nonce Hotel guest book

Dean Kissick blurbs

Terrible jackets

Joanna Newsom’s butt

 

[linebaugh]

my family is extremely loud though and maybe Im not willing to get to the volume needed to speak with them. I have a theory that my brothers voice got stuck in the fake deep voice pre teens sometimes do so as to not be called a pussy and it never went away. its pure chest cavity projection, unnaturally loud.

 

[sus]

@suspended which cultural artifacts, historic events, works of art etc do you expect you'll be looking back at with nostalgia from the last 20 years when it's your turn to be old?

WYH got one of them right but I'll leave it up to you to decide which

 

[pattycakes_]

WYH got one of them right but I'll leave it up to you to decide which

Newsom.

Let's have a few more

 

[sus]

It's true though, this is the Green Knight Sir Gawain story, this is Robin Red Breast. The young behead the old and then become old and are beheaded.

Robert Graves, White Goddess:
"...in British folklore, the Robin Red Breast as the Spirit of the New Yearsets out with a birch-rod to kill his predecessor the Gold Crest Wren, the Spirit of the Old Year, whom he finds hiding in an ivy bush... The robin is said to 'murder its father,' which accounts for its red breast."

 

[sus]

I really like that the Internet is a text-dominant medium. I like bulletin boards and forums and chatrooms and email. I can imagine that this state of affairs is partly a consequence of bandwidth limitations, and that most people prefer to communicate with faces and voices, and as data becomes too cheap to meter, things could change

 

[sus]

I have a lot of affection for books and can't get used to ereaders. It's nice right now because so many used paperbacks are swirling around, people don't want them, institutions are throwing out libraries, you can get them for very cheap. But I will be sad if they truly go out of fashion, even if longform digital text fulfills all of books' utilitarian function.

 

[sus]

I am already nostalgic for the golden age of research chemicals 2012-2016, when MXE and other incredible dissociatives were abundant and inexpensive

 

[Leo]

You guys even suck at trolling.

 

[pattycakes_]

most people prefer to communicate with faces and voices, and as data becomes too cheap to meter, things could change

Not so sure about most. One thing our virtual age of the last 20 odd years enabled is people anonymously assuming identities they would never have been able try without the 2 way cloaking buffer of keyboard and screen. Over time as those identities solidified and became normalized, they've now spilled out into the real world, and as is quite evident, many anchors have become untethered. Especially among those who grew up online. Reality is adrift right now. Delusion is rife. Your BCM being a fine example.

 

[sus]

Could be! Personally I find it hard to say, I very much live in a filter bubble of these sorts of people, hard to extrapolate

 

[pattycakes_]

I wonder how close your irl personality matches your Dissensus character

Unfortunately I'll never find out because I'll be out of town that week

 

[entertainment]

I like the fact that the older generation stick to their ways. I think it's a shame there isn't more argument between generations. As you say, each mostly learns to speak past one another, disregarding each other's view. It's become easier for young people to cut the elders out of the culture hasn't it? There isn't any dependence. Which is why you see more and more old people submitting to trendy views in order to retain relevance. Well they don't see it that way, and of course it can be genuine. But the dynamics have shifted, are shifting.

 

[Leo]

As boomers slide gracefully into their golden years, you'll all bend to our will, as you always have. Enjoy this moment while you can.

 

[entertainment]

I don't find it distasteful when John Cale praises Dr. Dre or whatever but I do find it pathetic when let's say an old punk known for their dirtbag masculinity in the 80s start to talk about microaggressions.

Take some responsibility for who you are.

 

[shakahislop]

I like the fact that the older generation stick to their ways. I think it's a shame there isn't more argument between generations. As you say, each mostly learns to speak past one another, disregarding each other's view. It's become easier for young people to cut the elders out of the culture hasn't it? There isn't any dependence. Which is why you see more and more old people submitting to trendy views in order to retain relevance. Well they don't see it that way, and of course it can be genuine. But the dynamics have shifted, are shifting.

its been interesting watching generational concepts appear in the uk over the last decade. i remember reading that douglas coupland book generation x when i was about 16 and not knowing what the fuck generation x was, what a generation was, was unfamiliar with this way of conceptualising people, this form of categorisation, and i don't think anyone else i was around in england knew what generation was either. 'zoomer' and 'millennial' seem to be common parlance in the uk now. with no evidence at all i can say i think its an american way of thinking that we have taken on recently. everyone always seems to be on about it.

along with that i can remember listening to david willets, a huge berk, talking about generational conflict in about 2012. that felt like a forerunner. that kind of intergenerational conflict discourse is everywhere now. don't think hardly anyone used to think about the world in that way.

 

[entertainment]

Different times represent different epistemic positions. It's very boring discourse if we at least don't grant them the oxygen to survive.

 

[pattycakes_]

its been interesting watching generational concepts appear in the uk over the last decade. i remember reading that douglas coupland book generation x when i was about 16 and not knowing what the fuck generation x was, what a generation was, was unfamiliar with this way of conceptualising people, this form of categorisation, and i don't think anyone else i was around in england knew what generation was either. 'zoomer' and 'millennial' seem to be common parlance in the uk now. with no evidence at all i can say i think its an american way of thinking that we have taken on recently. everyone always seems to be on about it.

along with that i can remember listening to david willets, a huge berk, talking about generational conflict in about 2012. that felt like a forerunner. that kind of intergenerational conflict discourse is everywhere now. don't think hardly anyone used to think about the world in that way.

we've never been so self aware as we are now and never had the platforms to talk about it the way we now do before the net came along

 

[pattycakes_]

I don't find it distasteful when John Cale praises Dr. Dre or whatever but I do find it pathetic when let's say an old punk known for their dirtbag masculinity in the 80s start to talk about microaggressions.

Take some responsibility for who you are.

Can people not evolve? The 80s was a long time ago