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But they're not though. Your generation had dubstep, what do these have?
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shakahislop
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it's not for creating things of lasting value. it's for creating affects. which are generated by the whole assemblage of the app and the phone rather than individual pieces of content.
shakahislop
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by this point it feels right to ask the question retrospectively rather than in present tense: was hollywood a good thing or not?
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But soma's supposed to be a bad thing
shakahislop
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i was drunk (on a series of pink barbie-themed drinks at a couple of bars, and then on some pink barbie-themed prosecco they were selling at the cinema. same as yyaldrin, the tone of the thing is offputing. it went by like a series of insta reels. it's weird how much cinema has the feel of wes anderson now
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It did have this very knowing, surperior tone which I suppose codes for "intelligent culture" nowadays. Thought it was fun enough but a bit off-putting yes. Designed to render criticism of it pointless. Very poptimist. Purposefully vague politics.
The actual messaging you are left with has nothing to do with feminism or critique of consumer capitalism or whatever but is a sort of display of dominance of a certain new cultural-political style. By the movie itself but more also the whole spectacle around it.
This is the thing! This is the cool sense of humour to have! These are the right things to say about the world! All the movie stars and pop stars are doing our thing, look! Everybody is doing our thing!
The actual messaging you are left with has nothing to do with feminism or critique of consumer capitalism or whatever but is a sort of display of dominance of a certain new cultural-political style. By the movie itself but more also the whole spectacle around it.
This is the thing! This is the cool sense of humour to have! These are the right things to say about the world! All the movie stars and pop stars are doing our thing, look! Everybody is doing our thing!
You mean like in My Stepmother is an Alien?
shakahislop
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it was fun. light entertainment
shakahislop
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it made me feel a bit like a men's rights activist though. uncomfortable bedfellows
shakahislop
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that particular stand of feminism becoming mainstream culture, the biggest movie of the year being so didactic, the shallow emphasis on how bad men are
rubberdingyrapids
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It doesn't matter what it says, or how, just that it gets ppl tweeting/updating about it, keeping the discourse going (and obv buying tickets).
Im sure this will he accused of mansplaining but either way...
https://www.the guardian.com/film/2023/aug/04/barbies-muddled-feminist-fantasy-still-bows-to-the-patriarchy
"Since men are to be portrayed as silly, the patriarchy has to be incompetent. When corporate America tries to put Barbie back in her box, it is defeated by its own inanity. Ken and his peers’ regrettable competitiveness and aggression prove self-destructive, and make them easy meat for the Barbieland counter-revolution. But this vulnerability drains the supposed oppressors of any degree of threat. The male ascendency, already sneakily attractive, turns out to be harmless as well.
Woman’s lot, on the other hand, remains as knottily problematic as ever, and Robbie’s challenge is consequentially an uphill one. Unlike Ken, Barbie is to be permitted no real flaws which might round out her character but undermine her gynocratic sanctity. Instead, she’s left to embrace a vision of the female mission that’s mired in banality and confusion."
Im sure this will he accused of mansplaining but either way...
https://www.the guardian.com/film/2023/aug/04/barbies-muddled-feminist-fantasy-still-bows-to-the-patriarchy
"Since men are to be portrayed as silly, the patriarchy has to be incompetent. When corporate America tries to put Barbie back in her box, it is defeated by its own inanity. Ken and his peers’ regrettable competitiveness and aggression prove self-destructive, and make them easy meat for the Barbieland counter-revolution. But this vulnerability drains the supposed oppressors of any degree of threat. The male ascendency, already sneakily attractive, turns out to be harmless as well.
Woman’s lot, on the other hand, remains as knottily problematic as ever, and Robbie’s challenge is consequentially an uphill one. Unlike Ken, Barbie is to be permitted no real flaws which might round out her character but undermine her gynocratic sanctity. Instead, she’s left to embrace a vision of the female mission that’s mired in banality and confusion."
rubberdingyrapids
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the guardian.com/books/2023/aug/04/our-book-is-barbie-meets-oppenheimer-why-we-wrote-about-nostalgia-in-an-era-of-crisis